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Calling all Legit 5th Capsule Fans!

Journal Entry: Thu Jun 5, 2014, 8:57 AM

First, I want to say thank you for reading 5th Capsule. Seeing new people watch the series by faving the pages is a big delight for me.

I did all of this on my own money, UDON didn't pay one cent for it. I've given you 3 comic books worth of content for free. I want to continue as I have much more story to tell, but I have reached the end of my funds.

The question is:

Is my work worth one dollar a page to you?

Like I said no one else is supporting this except you guys. So I'm shifting this project to Patreon.

If I've entertained you with something different than many things out there like I promised, and you see the quality inproving page by page, will, those of you who can, help me out? I plan on a maximum of 15 pages a month and if I can count on you guys I will give you these following perks below!:


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Plan 1 : $1 dollar pledge per page of new full colour 5th Capsule Pages:


I love 5th Capsule and want it to continue in COLOUR!:

If you help me out buy pledging even just 1 buck per new colour comic page, you'll get:

1) Full Colour!: Any coloured pages exclusively for you Patreon folks!
2) Improved Quality!: High res files of all the pages only for you! (2000pi tall) you can print that!
3) Earlier Release!: You will see the art months and months ahead of the public!
4) Exclusive Art!: Occasional colour pin ups, desktop images, and more for free only for Patreon folks!
5) Maps and Geeky Stuff!: Extra maps with full explanation and in full size for free!

I've given you over 65 pages free to enjoy! That's 3 comic books worth! If you enjoyed it, isn't it worth supporting?

Plan 2 : $10 dollar pledge per page of new full colour 5th Capsule Pages:


I love 5th Capsule and want it to continue in COLOUR! (Executive Super Fan): 10 spots only!

If you help me out buy pledging an incredibly generous 10 bucks per page, you'll get everything in the $1/page plan and:

1) Full Coloured Commission!: For every 50 new pages you support, you get a free marker rendered commission of anything you like , 5C, SF, Personna, etc! If it's a 5C commission, it will also go into any future 5C artbook!
2) Art Prints!: Any art prints I have from SF to Girl7 with be included in with your commission!
3) Influence!: Will let you help name characters, places, that affect the story! You might appear in it as well!
4) Original Pages!: You will be the only people allowed to buy original pages! (All 5C line art is on paper!)
5) Credit!: Mentioned in any upcoming art book by name as an integral person to the project!

If you usually get a commission from me each year, this is the plan for you! You still get your commission, but also you're helping me!

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Eventually I will post 5C here again in BW, smaller res, and much later. But all colour, extra art, extra maps, influence to the story, and other perks will be for those who will help me make it happen and I think that that is super fair.

So instead of an expensive commission, which I still might do if this doesn't work, why not help me out this way? Even if I get 100 pages done in the next year, its still less than you'd pay for a coffee each day.

Is 5th Capsule worth even one dollar to you?


If you answered YES!, then let's do it! Go to the link below!


www.patreon.com/5thCapsule
 

here is a sample of a colour page!

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Asalaamu Alaikum = Peace be upon you!



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:iconalansteenhouwer:
AlanSteenhouwer Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Done.
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
One of the first commenters on 5C, thank you very much!
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AlanSteenhouwer Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
What can I say? I'm a junkie. I need more of the good stuff man... Otherwise I get the shakes.
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Stickfigure5000 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional
All set and pledged! I look forward to all the content you will give and am grateful for all that you have already given already. I know how tough it is to be an artist and do what you love while also trying to make a living at the same time... so what you do is well deserved! I can only give the minimum in order to help, but I'll support any way I can.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks man, a lot of people think im like some sort of hot shot millionaire, and it is for sure not the case.

If things get better I will have a new course of action to adjust, but for now this is the only way the story will continue.
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hueynomure Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Nice marketing: "Is 5th Capsule worth even one dollar to you?" when actually is something more like 15-20$ per month, given your remarkable speed for the graphic quality. For that price I can buy 3 or 4 monthly issues of many comics/mangas you can think about; I'm not condemning the initiative nor objecting about the price, just making an a couple of observations.
The last observation being: patreon allows you to cap your pledge, apparently without preventing you from getting the benefits of your nominal pledge. This can mean, for example, that someone can sign up as a "super fan" then cap the pledge at 10$, effectively less than a "normal" fan is supposed to do and still getting all the goodies. Same thing capping the pledge at 1$ for a nominal "normal fan" pledge. There is some way for you to prevent this, other than good faith in the pledgers? (for example being able to see pledger's caps)

I'm sorry this sounds nipping, I understand the reason behind this initiative, but since I'm pretty uncertain about my pledge I'd like to ponder it.

Oh, and what about future readers? They will receive the color pages in a batch as soon as they make their pledge?
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
I do appreciate your point, they are for sure valid, and I decided to make it more clear that the absolute maximum pages per month is 15 , but not less than 12, basically three a week like we were doing before hand.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
I know all the people who are backing me on the major pledges as theyve been fans from day one,

The thing to remember about the 3 or 4 comics a month statement is that those people got paid to do it, I am doing this all for free, and I gave 3 comics worth (67 pages) for free.

Future readers will not receive any colour pages (only BW and much later on) , no bonus art, no right to buy 5C pages, and in some instances, will not have priority for their commissions as i will be doing commissions for the 5C folks.

I have a story to tell, but also a family to feed. Sounds like whine and cheese, but I've given to the limit, ive invested over 20 000 $ worth of my time and effort in this over the past 5 years.

If 67 free pages isn't good enough faith for you to have on me, i don't know what is.
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hueynomure Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
I'm sorry, I can't understand some bits of your line of reasoning.
You plan on somehow denying future readers, willing to support you, the chance to pledge on your Patreon? (my original question was "if not, how do you think you'll let them catch up?") The idea strikes me as odd. If you want to do so, when you will stop accepting pledges? You even have two different milestones... my best guess would be that you will stop when you'll feel like it, or when you think no one else is gonna pledge in reasonable time, but this might lead to two problems.
1.No chance for "real fanbase" growth. Let's say you stop accepting pledges somewhere beyond the first milestone. This means you will never reach the second milestone, for example, without using patreon again, or kickstarter.
2.Leaving new readers behind. "Oh, a new friend of mine told me about this amazing thing, I think it was named '5C'..." *typing* "Oh, it isn't free, but the free pages are actually pretty good! ...wait, what does it mean I can't buy it?"

I know that, when you have a minimum milestone to reach, it can be useful to set a minimum pledge (and I will not question the milestones since I'm not familiar with the expenses and the usual wage for the work required to make 5C) and stuff it with small benefits, but doing this you deny yourself the contribution from the readers who can't actually spend 12-15$/month (I just read your other reply as I write) or are willing to pay for 5C, but would prefer losing some of the benefits of a patreon pledge in exchange for a lower expense for following your story (second category here).

My suggestion is the following: when all is said and done and you achieved a milestone of your choice in patreon, sell the download of pages, additional art and worldbuilding stuff anyway, but separately. I'm not able to come up with perfectly tuned prices on the fly, obviously. For example, every month you could sell the download of the 5C pages (if you don't like the idea of giving someone the same benefits patreon pledgers have, you can sell coloured, but low-res version of the pledger's pages, for example), while the pledgers would have more frequent updates, and once in a while you can put a bunch of additional art or worldbuilding stuff on sale with a little preview. I don't think it should be difficult to do something like that, but maybe I'm wrong.

Obviously, this suggestion could be almost useless, I don't know the market and the audience you have since I'm mostly a lurker. Hopefully I will soon return to my hideout and stop wasting our time. Just wanted to give my 2c.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
That was more than 2c.

No one gets alienated, the pages eventually come here for free, people who want to help me get rewarded. Its that simple.

My fan base is fine, they know I treat them well.

5c won't fund itself, this seems the best way. When maybe you find yourself in my position, well compare notes.

Take care.
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DeltaEchelon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
More than happy to support this project.  Really looking forward to its progression.
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks huevo!
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stancliffe Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
 Have you considered doing a print book through something like Kickstarter?  I think you could probably get good funds through something like that!  I'd support!Popcorn 
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Kickstartd gets a bit more colicated later on, this one is very easy to use and deliver on.

Printed book , we'll see. For online stuff, this is great!
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Myst-Snow Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Really happy to be able to support something as good as this.

I've enjoyed it too much not to.
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much!
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:iconchemio:
chemio Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Letting random people influence the story doesn't seem like a great idea. But besides that I'll see about  pledging. :3
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
They don't influence it anything more than their names might be used, maybe suggesting panels to colour as bonus shizwaz

Trust me, im still steering this effer.
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chemio Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Oh ok. :D
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nctrns Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
I could definitely chip in a dollar or five here and there, but unfortunately I can't commit to support you long-term :/
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WolfofEpicness Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
the story is so great, also this is a really smart business move. I know its not the focus of making the comic but bills gotta be paid right?
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
I know some people will help me out, that way I can work on what i like and they can enjoy it. This is my career, and later on down the line I will post the pages, but not in colour.

It will take me so much time to save up ewnough money to buy time to work on it. I basically took three months off of work to do all those pages, and in that time I made nothing. I can only do that for so long before I have to stop.

At least this way, I can continue full blast in colour!
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:iconwolfofepicness:
WolfofEpicness Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
i'll be sure to support you all the way!
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626Ghost Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really like fifth capsule and I want support but I can't right now but I will in the future when I have the money so when I do support it and I miss a few pages that you already colored will I have access to those back paged?
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
You know fo ryou and a lot of other people I understand your situation.

When you come on board you'll have access to all the stuff you missed as it will be archived and easily accesssible!
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626Ghost Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That will be great. As soon as I can get the money. I will definitely be in. your artwork help inspire me to become a colorist.
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o0Yoko0o Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If you could get print books out I'd certainly be buying those up (Monthly or whatever schedule you'd release them), but even a dollar a page is something I can't really swing right now. Maybe in the future though.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks for watching!
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o0Yoko0o Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Of course, thanks for the cool comic!:)
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Meeowy Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
good luck. I'll bookmark your page and try help out where I can :D
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Naslee Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Nice! Patreon supports Paypal that means i can help yey! 
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:iconcourtnee-blackmon:
Courtnee-Blackmon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional
I'll support with a few bucks :)
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Anything is appreciated, and you will get it in colour and super sized as well as extra shizwaz.
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Courtnee-Blackmon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional
Sounds good! :)
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:iconpiscareous:
Piscareous Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll absolutly support!! It is beyond worth it. 
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
back fomr the BTV days, did you ever think it would go this far?
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Piscareous Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I had always hoped :) I thought it would take much longer for anything 5C to materialize, so all of this makes me a happy camper. 
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BTrinidad Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist
Oh you know I'm down for this Omar!
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks guy, deigo already is in there.
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wickedraiden Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
dude, yes. that's a lot of work for just one dollar a page. 
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks! Ill make sure its worth it.
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SlingBlade87 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Yeah fuck it, I'll support the comic.

I'm certainly enjoying it for it to be worth the price.
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:iconomar-dogan:
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks, I wont dissappoint!
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SlingBlade87 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
I honestly wouldn't mind the $10 level, but I don't think I can afford $150+ a month....
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ive everyone who is a fan pitched a dollar a page, and i do 15 a month, its pretty affordable, and exclusive too.

This means 5C will stop on dA in other words. If I can't pay my bills i have to stop altogether.

I can afford another few pages before i seriously have to start looking for work.
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SlingBlade87 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Yeah, I completely understand believe me.
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