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Calling all Legit 5th Capsule Fans!

Journal Entry: Thu Jun 5, 2014, 8:57 AM

First, I want to say thank you for reading 5th Capsule. Seeing new people watch the series by faving the pages is a big delight for me.

I did all of this on my own money, UDON didn't pay one cent for it. I've given you 3 comic books worth of content for free. I want to continue as I have much more story to tell, but I have reached the end of my funds.

The question is:

Is my work worth one dollar a page to you?

Like I said no one else is supporting this except you guys. So I'm shifting this project to Patreon.

If I've entertained you with something different than many things out there like I promised, and you see the quality inproving page by page, will, those of you who can, help me out? I plan on a maximum of 15 pages a month and if I can count on you guys I will give you these following perks below!:


Plan 1 : $1 dollar pledge per page of new full colour 5th Capsule Pages:

I love 5th Capsule and want it to continue in COLOUR!:

If you help me out buy pledging even just 1 buck per new colour comic page, you'll get:

1) Full Colour!: Any coloured pages exclusively for you Patreon folks!
2) Improved Quality!: High res files of all the pages only for you! (2000pi tall) you can print that!
3) Earlier Release!: You will see the art months and months ahead of the public!
4) Exclusive Art!: Occasional colour pin ups, desktop images, and more for free only for Patreon folks!
5) Maps and Geeky Stuff!: Extra maps with full explanation and in full size for free!

I've given you over 65 pages free to enjoy! That's 3 comic books worth! If you enjoyed it, isn't it worth supporting?

Plan 2 : $10 dollar pledge per page of new full colour 5th Capsule Pages:

I love 5th Capsule and want it to continue in COLOUR! (Executive Super Fan): 10 spots only!

If you help me out buy pledging an incredibly generous 10 bucks per page, you'll get everything in the $1/page plan and:

1) Full Coloured Commission!: For every 50 new pages you support, you get a free marker rendered commission of anything you like , 5C, SF, Personna, etc! If it's a 5C commission, it will also go into any future 5C artbook!
2) Art Prints!: Any art prints I have from SF to Girl7 with be included in with your commission!
3) Influence!: Will let you help name characters, places, that affect the story! You might appear in it as well!
4) Original Pages!: You will be the only people allowed to buy original pages! (All 5C line art is on paper!)
5) Credit!: Mentioned in any upcoming art book by name as an integral person to the project!

If you usually get a commission from me each year, this is the plan for you! You still get your commission, but also you're helping me!


Eventually I will post 5C here again in BW, smaller res, and much later. But all colour, extra art, extra maps, influence to the story, and other perks will be for those who will help me make it happen and I think that that is super fair.

So instead of an expensive commission, which I still might do if this doesn't work, why not help me out this way? Even if I get 100 pages done in the next year, its still less than you'd pay for a coffee each day.

Is 5th Capsule worth even one dollar to you?

If you answered YES!, then let's do it! Go to the link below!

here is a sample of a colour page!

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Asalaamu Alaikum = Peace be upon you!

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AlanSteenhouwer Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
One of the first commenters on 5C, thank you very much!
AlanSteenhouwer Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
What can I say? I'm a junkie. I need more of the good stuff man... Otherwise I get the shakes.
Stickfigure5000 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional
All set and pledged! I look forward to all the content you will give and am grateful for all that you have already given already. I know how tough it is to be an artist and do what you love while also trying to make a living at the same time... so what you do is well deserved! I can only give the minimum in order to help, but I'll support any way I can.
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks man, a lot of people think im like some sort of hot shot millionaire, and it is for sure not the case.

If things get better I will have a new course of action to adjust, but for now this is the only way the story will continue.
hueynomure Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Nice marketing: "Is 5th Capsule worth even one dollar to you?" when actually is something more like 15-20$ per month, given your remarkable speed for the graphic quality. For that price I can buy 3 or 4 monthly issues of many comics/mangas you can think about; I'm not condemning the initiative nor objecting about the price, just making an a couple of observations.
The last observation being: patreon allows you to cap your pledge, apparently without preventing you from getting the benefits of your nominal pledge. This can mean, for example, that someone can sign up as a "super fan" then cap the pledge at 10$, effectively less than a "normal" fan is supposed to do and still getting all the goodies. Same thing capping the pledge at 1$ for a nominal "normal fan" pledge. There is some way for you to prevent this, other than good faith in the pledgers? (for example being able to see pledger's caps)

I'm sorry this sounds nipping, I understand the reason behind this initiative, but since I'm pretty uncertain about my pledge I'd like to ponder it.

Oh, and what about future readers? They will receive the color pages in a batch as soon as they make their pledge?
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
I do appreciate your point, they are for sure valid, and I decided to make it more clear that the absolute maximum pages per month is 15 , but not less than 12, basically three a week like we were doing before hand.
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
I know all the people who are backing me on the major pledges as theyve been fans from day one,

The thing to remember about the 3 or 4 comics a month statement is that those people got paid to do it, I am doing this all for free, and I gave 3 comics worth (67 pages) for free.

Future readers will not receive any colour pages (only BW and much later on) , no bonus art, no right to buy 5C pages, and in some instances, will not have priority for their commissions as i will be doing commissions for the 5C folks.

I have a story to tell, but also a family to feed. Sounds like whine and cheese, but I've given to the limit, ive invested over 20 000 $ worth of my time and effort in this over the past 5 years.

If 67 free pages isn't good enough faith for you to have on me, i don't know what is.
hueynomure Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
I'm sorry, I can't understand some bits of your line of reasoning.
You plan on somehow denying future readers, willing to support you, the chance to pledge on your Patreon? (my original question was "if not, how do you think you'll let them catch up?") The idea strikes me as odd. If you want to do so, when you will stop accepting pledges? You even have two different milestones... my best guess would be that you will stop when you'll feel like it, or when you think no one else is gonna pledge in reasonable time, but this might lead to two problems.
1.No chance for "real fanbase" growth. Let's say you stop accepting pledges somewhere beyond the first milestone. This means you will never reach the second milestone, for example, without using patreon again, or kickstarter.
2.Leaving new readers behind. "Oh, a new friend of mine told me about this amazing thing, I think it was named '5C'..." *typing* "Oh, it isn't free, but the free pages are actually pretty good! ...wait, what does it mean I can't buy it?"

I know that, when you have a minimum milestone to reach, it can be useful to set a minimum pledge (and I will not question the milestones since I'm not familiar with the expenses and the usual wage for the work required to make 5C) and stuff it with small benefits, but doing this you deny yourself the contribution from the readers who can't actually spend 12-15$/month (I just read your other reply as I write) or are willing to pay for 5C, but would prefer losing some of the benefits of a patreon pledge in exchange for a lower expense for following your story (second category here).

My suggestion is the following: when all is said and done and you achieved a milestone of your choice in patreon, sell the download of pages, additional art and worldbuilding stuff anyway, but separately. I'm not able to come up with perfectly tuned prices on the fly, obviously. For example, every month you could sell the download of the 5C pages (if you don't like the idea of giving someone the same benefits patreon pledgers have, you can sell coloured, but low-res version of the pledger's pages, for example), while the pledgers would have more frequent updates, and once in a while you can put a bunch of additional art or worldbuilding stuff on sale with a little preview. I don't think it should be difficult to do something like that, but maybe I'm wrong.

Obviously, this suggestion could be almost useless, I don't know the market and the audience you have since I'm mostly a lurker. Hopefully I will soon return to my hideout and stop wasting our time. Just wanted to give my 2c.
Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
That was more than 2c.

No one gets alienated, the pages eventually come here for free, people who want to help me get rewarded. Its that simple.

My fan base is fine, they know I treat them well.

5c won't fund itself, this seems the best way. When maybe you find yourself in my position, well compare notes.

Take care.
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