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Journal Entry: Sun Jan 31, 2010, 8:22 PM
I was asked:

Q:Even if we don't make the big time like you guys, do you still encourage artists to draw for fun/ never give up?


A: The questioner has answered their own question within the question. But if it isn't too clear as to what I'm saying, i will put it another way:

You should not care whether or not i encourage you, nor should you be consumed with finding a 'big guy' to follow. I didn't think ever that i would be working on anything with a Capcom logo affixed to it that is offical (As official as you can get without working in Capcom Japan). I have met  many of my hero artists and many other artists i respect as well, and once again i never intended to ever meet them.

The point is that while my personal goal was to become a better artist, to become a 'big guy' in the industry which i do not feel i am, was not my goal. In fact, I would almost say that if that is your goal the journey will be all the more harder. The reason why that might be is because you are trying to make yourself marketable to the people whom you want to be hired by which might be a lie to yourself.

In a nut shell, i would say that your love of drawing is enough of a reason to continue, though if you get hired for it , be prepared to not always have the freedom and therefore not always have the love you had for art when it was a hobby. Again and again i say if you want to be an artist, do it as a hobby you will have more freedom/fun, if you want it as a career, you become talent-for-hire and the two are not the same no matter what anyone tells you. The proof is simple: in one case you are in full control, in the other someone can tell you it's wrong and have you to fix/change it as they are paying and have the right to demand so.

Becoming a 'big guy' is a relative thing and not something i preoccupy myself with. It almost has a semblance of clout or bragging rights and I don't feel that I have that at all. Many of you think i am in a high position, but i still very honestly consider myself a student at best and i struggle very hard to improve. Anything you see in my gallery i was trying my hardest at the time.

Yes i get paid to do what i do, yes i have choices of projects to work on, but those things don't make me think for one second i have reached my potential. So basically i am in the same boat as you, even after 10 years in the industry which is a drop in the bucket, i still feel i have huge tracts of artistic lessons and trials to compass as an artist with or without professional status.

If you want to give up, go right ahead we have plenty to replace you, if you need a pat on your back to continue then here you go 'good work, I hope you improve a lot this year! (sincerely)'

Career-wise if you're struggling hard then remember: Never doubt the hardworker, they always kick the show-boater and slacker in the end because they know how to work and never give up. Be consistant, persistant and reliable.


I really do thank you guys and I hope I have been of some use to you.


Asalaamu Alaikum = Peace be upon you!



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:iconddt87:
DDT87 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank's a lot for the pat on the shoulder and the kind advice, I really need something similiar. ^^
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TheALVINtaker Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Is there a way to fave this blog? :D
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motion-attack Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010  Professional Filmographer
Great advice ... thanks
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Ruisufueripe Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010  Student Digital Artist
That's really very good to read. I think a little, i want to became a better artirrts for the others, because i think, if my art give happiness, somehow for the others, it's a good thing. But i want to become good for myself too, to realise my dreams.
I really happy to hear that words from someone i concider, it's full of encouragement and humble too. And like my daddy say "don't matter our age or knowledge, we always have something to learn" (But i think i have a lot to learn) xD

Thank you for this words.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010  Professional General Artist
I enjoy making people happy as well, and art seems to be a lot nicer to do when people notice.
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TatsujinEdge Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010
Thank you for those words of wisdom i have to agree with what has been said before they are inspirational :nod:
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RevolutionaryMoon Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist
Hey Omar, first time posting to one of your journals, lol. It really helps and inspires me as an artist, and a professional. I just currently graduted with a BA in Video game design, and like you said I don't know where to go sometimes. Like, I want a good job, nothing spectacular, it would be great dont get me wrong, but sometimes I feel that a small company would be what I want to work for. But who knows what the future has for me.

You know, seeing all of these great artists and comparing it to our own pieces can really bring us down or give us more initiative to keep going. But really seeing that an artist that we admire sees himself the same way we do really just lets us see you as more as one of us. That you think and feel just as self-concious as we do. I sometimes get embarrassed to show or sometimes post my own work, which is my one flaw as an artist because I have been ridiculed and told I cant do it, even y teachers, because as they say that I dont change my style. But, I know it has been changing, so there.

Well, sorry for the wrong post, but thanks for staying true to the little guys like us. And giving us a little push to better ourselves as artists and people. Much love Sir!! :D
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010  Professional General Artist
I think the some artists put on an act to keep people as fans by asserting their authority by way of their art. If they admit that something was hard to do, it brings them down to a lower level.

Not all artists are like that at all, but even the best artists should be damn sure that there is always someone who can do a different style way better.

Thats why i say, dont preoccupy yourself with finding a hero artist and emulating their every stroke and pixel. Also becareful with the word 'style' some people just use it to excuse their collective mistakes.
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RevolutionaryMoon Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010  Hobbyist
Yeah, my teacher told me that once and to another classmate of mine. He was working himself up there and like you said he used the word 'style' to not admit that he had a lot of work to do on that piece. But thank you for your advice and caring thoughts to us. It means a lot, that way we see you more as a person and not just some guy who has some great talent that we will never meet. No offense or anything. You live to far from me to ever get a chance to meet you, cause I'd actually spend soe money on one of your commissions. (Stuck in FL, lol)
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LuisaRafidi Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
I always wonder if I made the right choice of being an artist for a career. All my life, I was sure I'd do Law and was decided that I'd keep at art only as a hobby.
When I turned 18, I changed my mind completely and decided to pursue an art career, because I thought "that's what I like to do and I can't see myself doing anything else". But I've heard many times that doing art as a hobby is not equal to doing it as a job, and that many times I'd hate having to draw at all, but I decided to take on the risks.

I still wonder if I'll die of hunger because of my future low salary (haha), but like I said, I can't envision myself working on anything else than art. My dream job is to be Nintendo's concept artist. Heh, who knows?

As for never giving up, I can say I did that. I'm a perfeccionist and never stopped practicing or trying to improve, and I shake my head at people who come to me saying "I can't draw, I'll never be like you", as if I was born drawing like I do now. I still have much to improve and I won't give up.

Well, I hope I have a bright future in the career I chose. Thanks for posting this journal, Omar. And sorry for the gigantic comment.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
I am not saying that each and every job you have is all money and no fun, som jobs i have had are a lot of fun and the editors havebeen easy on me, or almost noninterfering altogether.

When I started as an artist, I really did not know where it would take me. I don't think anybody goes through life in any career and finds that the path is predictable and smooth the whole way through.

Often times the effort you put in is much much more important than the talent.
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LuisaRafidi Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Well, I do hope I get some nice jobs with nice editors!

I don't know where my job as an artist will take me either; but I'm quite sure I'll be happier than if I chose to do Law, and that's comforting.

While talent does count, if one doesn't try hard, practice and put effort on what they do, their talent alone won't lead them anywhere.

Thanks for replying Omar. And keep writting these comforting journals, haha!
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Keijn Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
What else I could say? Thank you this.
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TastingCockroaches Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional Filmographer
Thank you for this answer.
I'm currently studying 2D animation and I'm the kind of girl who always feels a little "late" compared to others.
I'm not really sure why, but reading this made my day.

The Random Wanderer.
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techloveroneofakind Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
am trying hard to continue, even tho am a newbie
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Foilguitar Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
I like the fact that you are still humble even with all of your talent. An ego just sets people back.
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Soulbrotha Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Myself, I have no real desire to pursue a professional comic career (not that I'm cocky enough to claim that level of skill). I really just draw because it's something I love to do. My job is very stressful, and drawing (and a few video games) are my peacemaker. The freedom to create what you want, tell whatever story is in your, or draw any scene... that's what's so beautiful about art in general.

But even for guys like me, there are heroes like you. It's not that I think of you like a "big guy" who's made it, but just because there's a certain quality about your work that I can't really put a finger on, but it instantly makes it recognizable as yours. That, I would rather have than an illustrious career... for people to be able to look at a drawing and know it's mine.
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Lightning-Powered Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
If you don't love what you do, why do it?
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strigae-excandui Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
nice journal and some good advice :)
I like my work/drawings as a hobby, I don't like to feel I have a dead line as such if you know what I mean. I know it's hard work and sometimes a lot of luck to be notice or hired. I like my pace, it works for me and know I would feel under pressure having to do a piece a certain way. I've done pencil work for over 10yrs maybe even closer to 15yrs with some breaks, digital for the last 5 I think and have always wanted to have a go at 3d work, design things/architect so that's what I'm trying at the moment, I find it enjoyable and a challenge to myself.
I think anyone should enjoy what they do no matter what others say, or write. Every piece, artwork/digital etc is worth something to someone no matter what style/age or what others say. It's made with thought, practice, learning and hard work, blood, sweat and tears. It's nice to give encouragement and respect an artists hard work.
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Jimmy-GV Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
I never intended to be one of the 'big guys', I just want my productions to be good enoaugh to please myself byt sometimes I feel that reaching that goal is becoming more like an obligation and not something pleasent, and im afraid that that may happen.
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Megtroid Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you so much for such great advice!
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irenukia Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks so much, I'm keeping this journal in my 'useful' folder <3
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RayArtz Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Truer words seldom spoken--I swear you and I just alike! haha
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FabledFiend Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Student Digital Artist
hell yeah dude.... i will follow you "big buy"
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Beefy-Kunoichi Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Omar, thanks again for the journals you post on DA. I'm not sure how much you realize these posts help aspiring comic artists like myself to keep pursuing a dream, regardless of obstacles--especially on DA. I think DA has great attributes but I also see the unfortunate aspect of people not really liking original content on this site and I would often be tempted to fall into the prey of just drawing fanart to get popular. I honestly believe that my original project is something that eventually will be picked up and alot of people would enjoy it, in the meantime I have to keep working hard until that happens.

Unfortunately, the way the industry works right now makes it very hard for OEL mangaka to be successful because most companies don't want to risk not regurgitating what readers have already seen. I still think my initial pitch could be better but I'm happy to have finally finished something to show people and possibly get work from it...hopefully. Often times I'd think that what happens on DA with me is reflective of how my career will turn out and that's definitely not true at all. Despite not being very popular on DA I have to keep working hard toward my goal of being published and hopefully I will recieve an audience that follows my work faithfully.

Thanks for your kind words of encouragement.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
I had a theory for what you are doing and it worked, but took 10 years.

I built myself up by doing other work and developed myself and skills and then when the opportunity arose and I was prepared for it by then, I was able to take advantage of that opening. i am so glad i waited and was persistant since i am a lot stornger of an artist after a decade of experience and i have been able to use the things i have learnedon other projects to sharpen my own.

Most people dont want to wait so they end up doing it the hard way and becoming miserable and disgruntled because inexperience is a gamble. There is no way we would even consider taking on a story from someone who has zero experience no matter how good they think they are.

It counts when you have credentials, otherwise you are just some other person, 1 in a million.
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Beefy-Kunoichi Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
That sounds somewhat depressing, but more true than anything else. Most companies need to be sure of your credibility in order make you a candidate in most cases. I just know that there are some that feel like they have a decent idea/concept that could work but in the end, an idea is an idea...and ideas run pretty cheap. There are some exceptions which some of hopeful that they are--and you're right alot of the frustration comes from how someone actually approaches a goal. Then again, at least on the outside it seems pretty tough even find work at Udon since Udon definitely seems like its got a bountiful staff that tackles multiple licenses. Anyway, I really appreciate your insightful posts and like anyone else I can just keep working harder and look to land an opportunity where I can fit within the industry.

Thanks again.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
At UDON we try very hard to just feed ourselves and stay afloat. The unfortunate thing is that we have to do things that are marketable in order to keep going. The hope is that with the extra money we amass we can try and make some of our own ideas come to life.

I am not trying to rain on anyones parade, and by all means if you have the time and the energy you should do you story.
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MrMelancholy Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Thx for ur encouragement! It does help. I know alot artists want to be become famous and they work really hard. But sometimes the reality is very frustrating...But still, we should always keep in a good mood and believe ourself! XD
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
I am frustrated all the time, but it is in a good challenge sort of way 70% of the time.
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shadowyzman Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
You kind of treated my problem :) Thanks! Walaikumassalam
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TheRWG Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You forgot to mention hard word [strong]and[/strong] sacrifice if you want a job doing what you love but the rest I agree with. I'm still seen by many as an outsider trying to get in but the sacrifice needed I know for sure x.x, I guess for younger artists it's better because they have less commitments.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
Sacrifice goes without saying, when you work hard you have to apply yourself fully, which requires sacrifice.

I sacrificed my party time, expensive life style, and video games to work hard among other things, so for me its implied since the time involved has to come from somewhere.
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BluedragonINK Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
I guess my problem is that when I work for over 12 years on my art work improving it little by little and don't get me wrong, I have came along way and have gotten so much better with practice and tutorials on both drawing and coloring. But its always discouraging to see someone so much younger then I am, that can out draw me when I been working really hard with my skills.. I'm still trying to work on different mediums with my drawings to see if fits me the most.. Some days I have really good days and other I can't draw for crap.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
There are always going to be 'prodigy child' type artists as we call them.

Just worry about yourself and take them as wake up calls and initiative to improve or keep up.
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BluedragonINK Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Yes Sir will do.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010  Professional General Artist
My friends an I used to get super depressed when younglings were able to draw much better, but hey, we all draw differently so whatever. In the end they just let you know whats coming up in a nother 5 years and force you to evolve or get sidelined when they start going for work.
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BluedragonINK Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2010
well it was hard for me to except I have my own style. But I think I will keep on work on myself to get what I want and not worry about what other people think of what I should do different.
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Padder Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
I remember back on OCAD people saying "I will eat you and get your talents." You're right encouraging this way. I guess that what is most important is hard work and a love for it, whether you're good or not. Without those, you get nowhere and you're probably wasting time. I saw people in animation class that started with very crude (dare I say ugly and untalented?) drawings, but after 3 years of courses, they actually kick ass.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
I was the only one in Sheridan in 1996-7 who was doing anime styled characters for my animation projects and they told me i would never have a job, so they can eat their words.

Stick to your guns and they will come to you if it is quality, the market is huge and diverse.
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Padder Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
Heh. Well I've been looking for a job these past 4 months. Guess Montreal has a small market.
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judgefang Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Words of wisdom Omar. Persistence and reliability have helped me alot more than talent.
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shiroboi Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great article. This is exactly why I work in IT and do art as a hobby.
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IAmTheLesserOne Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Got me inspired and make things right and clear for me. :thanks: :dance: :love:Thanks! for this!!!! :D:D:D
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JoshuaJet Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Thanks for those words, they were both comforting as well as inspiring. I know now that what I want is to make my vision happen, and that won't happen under someone's cracking whip.

thanks!!
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BleacheD-InK Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Always nice to hear the other side of the art career. It's my hope become a concept artists for the movie and game industry one day =) Hopefully to publish a manga of mine too, but that's more of a 'on the side' type thing =P

Thanks for the insight! Makes me all the more encouraged to do my utmost best =D
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mongrelmarie Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This actually came across as being a bit more ... discouraging than inspiring for me.

But thank you for posting this journal -- it has inspired others, and that's a great thing. :aww:
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derob2511 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010   General Artist
Thanks man!
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scyfon Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010
Amin~
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Frobman Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2010   Filmographer
Good words to live by, which I am in fact am doing. I just don't really want to be part of some big shot multi dollar projects really. Just something to do with comics or games and being fairly well known/obscure is good enough for me, until I find such a job.
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