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My Art Sensei told me so,

Journal Entry: Fri Oct 22, 2010, 8:20 AM
I should be working right now, but once in a while I get an itching feeling I need to vent some of my feelings and who better to than my friends and fans.

I think its is beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am best known for my involvement in Street Fighter work and the like. Most of what I have built my popularity on is Capcom related, and it was a calculated effort. Much of my fame, however small it is,  is from that series.

Now, thats one thing, but another thing i have started to notice and feel is that my work is becoming too cheese cakey, and too suggestive. I know there are plenty of other things out there more racy and crazy than mine, but I have to start wondering at a certain point why it is you actually like my work and who actually likes my work.

Talking to my favourite art instructor about art and the conception thereof, i came across some ideas and input I hadn't heard before. In most case people just cheer me along in my career and enjoy in my success as well, but he was a bit more critical in a good way. In essence, he basically said that I should consider doing actual real art, like fine art as opposed to always the same thing here. This got me to thinking as to what do I want to be known for, but also spurns the question what am i known for.

In my mind, i feel i have vastly exploited the female form to make a living, and i worry that that makes me a hypocrite to what I believe is right, and has typecast-ed me. I have to put food on the table, but I am working to get to a place where i can be more selective of my work and try to evolve as an artist.

SO here I present to you a question, with an affixed poll for you to vote.


I really do thank you guys and I hope I have been of some use to you.


Asalaamu Alaikum = Peace be upon you!



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zarsh Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
i think you should work on your original art from time to time, everybody got a story to tell.
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zarsh Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
we being from the same religion have the same ordeal. I have that kinda questioning myself. a friend says i need to draw from real picture, and learn to improve on that then doing anime style. As much as that is true, it is soo hard to do so.

As for doing female figures, i myself have the same problem about drawing to sexy of a picture. Will this be written as a good deed or a bad deed.
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LuisaRafidi Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2010
i think you should do what you like. sure, you have to work for a living, and nothing stops you from making both fine art and drawing females like you've always done. good luck!
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Shen-fn-Woo Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah yeah.... Let's make important, influential decisions on how to better myself in one of the most trivial aspects of my life - fuck saving the rainforest or an endangered species, small insignificant details of why I'm so popular in my ART is the best issue to tackle at the moment :P
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zJoriz Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2010
I agree with misterFISH that any art is art... it's the intention rather than form that counts, in my opinion.

In your case, you're one of the very few people I've ever seen who says they earn enough from their art/illustrations to actually live off it -- and then continue drawing the same things in your free time because you want to get "more into character"! Honestly, as long as you enjoy this, don't bother changing anything in your workflow.

On the other hand, I believe side projects using other techniques and picking other subjects may be a smart thing to do. They can even further improve the quality of your 'normal' work, and prevent said work from becoming boring. You never know until you tried, I guess...
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Lulluria Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2010
Aw, you shouldnät feel like you exploit the female form. I like to draw it very much and I am female; I think it's a beautiful form and all sides of women are interesting and pretty.

That aside, I started to watch you a long time ago because I enjoyed your technique. The street fighter stuff was just a nice surprise :3 And I was amused to see your name pop up that once in puzzle fighter. xD But alas, I am not THAT into SF and the capcom works I like are not done by them directly.

I think you, as the artist, should first and foremost do what -you- love. I know itäs hard sometimes to worry about the view of others, but I think it's very important to do what you want and love.
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MakoCrab Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Omar, you put up one of the most inspirational pieces to me here on DA a while back. It was your 3-stage drawing of Ibuki from sketch to completion. She was in a powerful pose striking with an open palm. I didn't think, "oh he's exploiting the female form." I thought, "this is a great artist!"
I see a lot of comics (that I never buy) out there that do exploit the female form, but I don't think you're one of them. Your professional work involves a lot of women that were designed by Capcom to be sexy, but you've shown a great deal of restraint and professionalism in portraying more than just their physical attributes.

Also, you're the guy that builds Lego cars! Just seeing your creations made me want to bust out my tub of old Legos again and build something new. You really are an inspirational artist, and I'm glad that you are thinking about these issues. I'm sure a million other comic book artists either wouldn't think about the women they draw or wouldn't care.
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chowwingho Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2010
As much as I'm sure your art Sensei is a very wise and experienced artist, I would never think that the kind of art you do is in any way less valued or less important than "fine art" in much the same way I wouldn't call classical music better than jazz. You could look at your focus on the female form and on street fighter specifically as being "type-cast" OR you could look at it more as carving out your niche in the art community. Its helped many people discover you, myself included, and it seems to be something that you love. Now, that's not to say that you can't take time to branch out, try new mediums or subjects, we all need a break once and a while, but I don't think that you should feel bad for focusing in on something specific.
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FromArt-ToArt Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why can't you do both? to be an artist is to love art more than your job, whether it be plumbing, taxi cab driving (ext), or commercial art its self, you will hopefully still have time to work on something more meaningful to you on your free time.
I am not a commercial artist so i can't tell you how things go, but i just recently got a good job doing labor work for my family and that gives me free reign over what i want to work on in my spare time and its a great feeling that you have a choice what you want to explore in your endless curiosity for art.
so if its been a while since you touched a sketch pad i say pick one up, and start working your magic. and please, don't draw what you think other people want to see, because it should be about what you want so don't worry if you feel a little selfish because its one of the benefits of drawing for yourself or someone you care about :) (ps. drawing for yourself and for people who are close to you, greatly enhances your end product.... at least from what i see.)
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Classico Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010
This may be a very different response - but what first attracted me to your art was how crazy good you draw vehicles!! I was sitting at my computer thinking "did he seriously do that sh** with pencils? WTF lol"

If you drew a book that had alot of car chase scenes, i'd be all over it.
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tabbyanimelover Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010
i thnik he meant to try other things and see what you can :) i think your art is beautiful but, i also think you can do alot better (not in a bad way) you have alot of potential so i think that you can do lots of other styles of art so try them but never forget the way you originally drew it good to learn new things but its even better to keep the old too :D
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chibiwolf7 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010
Hmmm... well, you can continue drawing for stuff like 5th Capsule and at the same time express your ideas in your work, if that is you'd like to do. Back in the day making stories with great themes was more frequent and varied, it would be nice if you'd bring that back. I'd say you could go for either of the choices you've got, as your work [link] demonstrated. I agree with your thoughts regarding your drawings on the female gender, but in every one of your drawings you give it your best and your watchers can see that you're working hard to improve as an artist and raise a family. But it ultimately depends on what path you'd like to follow.
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Ability-Normal Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010  Professional General Artist
I don't think that I have ever considered you a cheesecake artist, and I have mostly followed you because I think your art is fun. Your cheesecake is about as tame as any that exists I think, so I think you are worrying over nothing.

Coming from a person who has been struggling to figure out drawing comics after coming from a fine art background, I think it is unhealthy to make a distinction between comics and fine art, or to feel that comics (even licensed ones) are some lesser art form. If you are enjoying what you are drawing, that is all that matters. So, if you are not enjoying what you are drawing, go ahead and change it. Guys like Serpieri make drawing outright porn look better than most fine art that I can think of, and that's because despite the crude nature of his work, that sort of stuff is what sparks his creativity.
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Proxy-0 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Personally,what i think your sensei meant in a nut shell was to try to expand your horizons. Try to break out of your comfort zone try and master some other mediums, because all in all it can only help strengthen your own personal style as of now. ^^ I am trying to do the same right now its a bit challenging but all in all its actually kind of fun ^^ ,but hey just my opinion ,haha but I just think you should do what you think personally is right for you right now at this moment. You can't let others no matter how high in stature let their opinions completely influence your own. I understand considering your sensei's opinion because you respect him very much ,but in the end hey its all you man. Keep up the very good work i look forward to more of your works in the future ^^.
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Padder Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010  Professional General Artist
Never saw you as a "sexy-girl" artist. J.Scott Campbell has a lot of that going on and makes comics around that concept alone. You don't. Just do what you want and like and occasionally challenge yourself doing stuff out of your comfort zone.
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arman21282 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Uh, wow. You have a lot of comments to read. I'd like to give my point of view and I'll make it simple. When I take a look at your gallery, I feel that your illustrations are kinda stiff as if you made with a few restrictions in mind. I believe I'm in no position to criticize ehe-heh, so I'd like to suggest you read something inspirational/motivational. I'll share this link from Danny Choo's page:
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I hope it can help you as well.
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demunlawin Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010
It really is a hard choice from your part, your well known artist because of your art style and involvement with your company...

It is hard to get out of your comfort zone, especially on the "Art style" you use... but It never hurt to learn a new style, far from the one you use right now...

Learn to be Flexible of different styles and find to yourself/soul search and experiment on styles that will leave you with comfortability and at ease with yourself...
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Router-Jax Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010  Student General Artist
Well, since you look like you're at a stump I guess I'll be giving out my input on this matter. Hope it helps.

First off, what you do when seen on a neutral point of view is never on the racy side. Rather, I find them to be more of a depiction of what people are like. In this world there are conservative people and sexy looking people among others. The Capcom stuffs you do just happen to include some of these sexy people, but you in any way didn't take advantage of their sexiness to capture more viewers, or so it seems. In a way this is the same as an anime that features a certain sexy character and is depicted as such but without being overly sexed up, in other words, without the fan service. Which is different when compared to an anime that may not even have sexy characters, but goes the cheeky way and loads itself with fan service. Seeing it from this point of view, the former case is the definitely the better, and more tasteful one. And yours sir, is definitely something I can view with respect and appreciation.

In fact when I see your stuffs, such a thing as 'dirty' doesn't even came across my mind. They're just there, you have to do it because it's your job to draw these people that look like that. These are very decent compared to stuffs you can see from some other artists/series nowadays. Though I won't argue, some people see things on a different level and maybe you are concerned for a reason. Point is, if you can manage to make a living by not drawing things you feel somewhat disturbed of, then go for it. Otherwise, work towards it.

A change in the form of art that you do too can help. As your master said, you might want to try fine art. From there, it might give you an idea you can work out which road you really want to go for. I myself is currently committing a change in my art form in regards of finding my former works unconvincing even to myself. I'm going for something I had never gone to before and I find I can work with it even better now that I'm liking it.

As for your poll, while the first thing I notice with your art is the background and cars, I mostly notice them for the action and martial art. In which the former two aspects I mentioned are nicely incorporated in the latter mentioned and that's what attracted me the most in what you do. Also I haven't been able to read 5C, but by far that's your better stuff based on what I've seen in your gallery.

I'm not sure I elaborated it right. But you're doing the right thing there and the will to constantly evolve is good in an artist. So keep it up!
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OmegaDez Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010
As far as I'm concerned, there is more to you than just being "that guy who draws Capcom girls." But I'd be lying if was to say those aren't a big part of why I'm such a big fan.

Your own stuff is just as awesome, if not better. Take 7th Capsule for instance. That's brilliant stuff.

But really, cheesecake is good. And sexy is great, as long at it remains tasteful. Keep doing what you do best. As long as you're not starting to hate it, of course.


May I add a little comment, while we're talking about your art?
There's an illustration you did in the second Udon's Art of Capcom volume featuring Ibuki hanging around wearing a tank top with her name on it. This is definitely my favorite picture you've ever made. I just love the simple flat colors you decided to use in there, and how everything's a different shade of brown... Your line art and overall drawing skills truly shine with such a minimalist CG color job... Why don't you do more pictures using this style?

Your photoshop coloring skills are quite amazing, of course, but there's something... quite nice with this softer style.
Same with all those girl sketches you did for the 7th Capsule. (I'm still waiting for the Noora one. ^^ )

So maybe the way not to end up feeling stale would be for you to simply alternate a bit more between styles and subjects?
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Nusquam-Vir Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2010
Well only you can truly know you, ya know? It's important to follow ones own path and to do so with your own moral compass. If you feel your work has become too exploitive, then low be it for any of us to disagree.

However, my opinion as a fan. I mentioned in your poll that I had a great deal of difficulty picking simply one option. Actually to be more accurate I found it damn near impossible, and thus failed to vote all together. Why? Because your work contains nearly all of those things. You are in all honesty one of the most well rounded artists I know here. In a place where most tend to dish out heaping helpings of the same thing over and over. Whether that be fantasy, cheesecakes, mech, catgirls, so on so forth. Not you however. No, your horizons are already quite broad. I believe you've established yourself and worked your way into a pretty good position. We hardly ever know what to expect from you, except of course occassional jaw dropping Capcom-based work. We do know that whatever it is, it's going to be fantastic, because that's the standard you've set for yourself.

Again though, no attempts to sway your beliefs. By all means, in whatever you decide to throw at us, give it your best and fire away. Though no doubt you'll do that anyway.
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AnimeFreak40K Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe I understand your perspective here and I can certainly understand what you are getting at and why.

For what it is worth, I think you have done a great job of being true to your religious views and balancing the nature of commercial work. I mean, when it comes to video game characters in general, the female characters appear disproportionately curvy (or at least possess measurements that a woman at that level of physical conditioning would have) and often wearing questionable attire (if it could be called this at all). You have taken these characters and muted them without losing the essence of the character itself. For example, it is very difficult to draw Cammy in anything other than her skin-tight mini-leotard and still come across as being Cammy. You can do this, and that by itself is most impressive.

As far as drawing females, I have not received any sensation that you are not doing anything with them that I would not consider realistic. What I mean by this, is that I get the impression that you draw a girl (or several girls) in short skirts not because doing so is sexy or exploitive, but that is because of the fashion or the individual character’s tastes.

I would also like to point out that a large number of artists, both male and female, prefer to draw the female form. I have heard many different reasons for this, and they seem to drift from being easier to draw properly, the round soft shapes of the female body are easier to draw, friendlier than, or more appealing than the hard, angular shapes of the male body…and some just like to draw T&A. It seems to vary from artist to artist really.

This being said, I do not think the act of drawing female characters and such should concern you as much as *how* you go about it. Just my 2 cents.
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me9a7 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hmm to me this is just you branching out to other forms of art style, which is always good. can't wait to see what you have installed for us! :)
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LVUER Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
It's not bad to be able to do everything. Just do it slowly and one thing at a time. Even if you're trying to learn fine art or other thing, it's not like you have to stop drawing sexy/cute girls...
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Shoji-Ikari Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Drawing the opposite of what you are compelled to draw can be interesting. Also there are certain boundaries in place; work is work, and it could have nothing to do with what you actually want your personal art to contain.
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Touge-demon Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
I don't think that your stuff is very "racy" or what not. heck, it isn't even close(in my book at least).I think you've done a great job so far on things
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Ylaz Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
the perspective is awesome and great anatomy , cool storytelling. i even study some of ur panels . actually , people seems to thing bcause you are drawing manga its less art. i hve heard things like that. wth they dont understand its only a style and the artist can change to realistic or cartoonish if he wants too. People seems to be more blown away by the style than the skills. You have great skill and if you dont like what you are doing now , you can work in another style and do others things as long as you could enjoy it go for it. you have so much skill man RULE THE WORLD LOL
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Glorion Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Skillfully excecuted commerical work.
Why?
Your talent is undeniable.
However I believe I may understand what you are marinating on. I THINK part of what your Art Sensei could have been saying is that you should now try to move out of your "comfort zone" - and by comfort zone I mean all that makes us lazy/or effecient (like me not colouring most of my art anymore... >_> ) such as the subjects, it's detph and even the medium to some extent.
Personally, I really loved your pencil series because the facial expressions really seemed to depict the character's.... character.
Another undeniable sign that you truly are a great artist is that you're auto-evaluating your art and when you feel the need, you ask for feedback to help your growth.
Those are my 2 cents, "take them how you want to or don't take 'em at all" - Dudley Perkins.
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Scorponoxxx Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
Though I'm a red blooded hetro male, I like your art for the way you draw the faces. Anyone can draw titties and ass easily. I like your work because my favorite SF characters - Chun Li, Ibuki, I imagine to look a certain way, and you seem to nail it the best out of the artists that create Capcom stories.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the "Real Art" comment. Mediums change with time and advances in technology. There was a time when Elvis Presley songs were considered junk by the establishment. J.R.R. Tolkien had critics rip him to shreds in the local newspapers for Lord of the Rings, and I remember reading about how even Shakespeare plays were considered pop culture garbage at the time.

Do what you enjoy doing, and let history decide what is and isn't real art. My two cents.
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Jimmy-GV Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
Look, I must confess that in a first glance, I got to know you because of your Street Fighter works, obviously females were the first thing to pop out. But then I began to investigate your gallery more and more and I could spot a lot of things more.

I have you as one of my favourite artists mainly for two things:
First, all your effort an work you put in the thigs that you specially like. Somehow some of your deviations like "shine" especially, can't quite explain it.
Then, your style. Seriously, I believe that my personal style is being strongly influenced in your work. Not only on females and not only Capcom. I simply believe that your percepcion of anatomy is graceful and strong at the same time.

It's difficult to determine what "real art" is, but is well known that if someone wants to grow as an artist, you have to try lots of different things, even those that you think you don't like. The objective is to consider and try everything you feel interested in and give it a shot. I mean, the basis of a great artist is experience, and the best way to learn new things is to put your hands directly on it. After a long way of trying all this things, you'll see that when you try to do something in your own style, you'll have thousands of new options to recreate and use in your work.
It is also important to never loose sight of your objevtive. I mean, don't go and try Xilography if you don't like it and just to look what it is. If you do something try to do it for the joy of it and try to take all the juice.

This can appear to be easy, but it isn't. It's not simple to move in something different of your own and at the begining you'll fell lost and it will be like everything is wrong. But it is all experience that will be quite usefull to grow as and artist and also like a person, becuse things like these are the ones that boreadens your mind a lot.

Hope this can be usefull.
Saludos
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misterFISH Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Student Digital Artist
First of any art is "real art" second while a do recognize you by your sexy gals type art (theres that word again) your also a very good storyteller & your depection of martial arts is amazing !!!

Don't feel like you have to change to be "real art"(whatever that is lol) but i do think exploring
different avanues is always a good thing as long as you want to .

Hope this helps .
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omtay Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
So now you notice
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Chopichu132 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
I', sorry but your teacher was wrong for telling you to do "Real Art" who's to say what your doing isn't really art. All forms of visual communication can be art, one isn't to be more "Real Art" than another. In my opinion your teacher needs to reassess his vocabulary when referring to someone's particular art form.
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EdmondDantes23 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
Yeah, you're pretty much known for drawing cute manga females. But the first thing that attracts my attention first and foremost is always the subject matter. If it's a Capcom character I like, I'm all over it. It doesn't have to be a female, though if it is, she'd have to be presented in a way that I feel is appropriate.

Your work has been just that. Your females are effective because even though they CAN be sexy, you're not consciously trying to make them look that way. You strive to make them beautiful. I don't see that as being exploitative of the female form; I see that as being appreciative. I've had to draw women at my art school, both clothed and nude. They were quite attractive, but I never felt that I was drawing them for anyone's pleasure. Not even my own. I just wanted to recreate how I saw them on the newsprint. It'd be a blunder on my part if I didn't give them my best.

As I said before, you have a very light-hearted style that complements the characters you work with. That's a huge part of what made Ibuki Legends so successful; as I was reading, I actually cared about what was happening with her. If you drew her like a super model posing flirtatiously in every panel, I would have stopped at the first issue. She deserves better treatment than that, and frankly, not many people understand this. But you do. That's a gift, and you're in a very fortunate position to work at a studio that won't force you to draw more erotically just to appropriate more sales. That happens in the industry all to often.

That said, you've also demonstrated with Chun-Li Legends that you can be more flexible and go with an edgier look rather than a cute look. If anything, it'd help to push yourself in that direction more.

And I do agree that broadening your subjects and exploring other mediums will help you evolve as an artist. You may remember how I expressed my dislike for inking when I spoke with you at comic-con. My complaint wasn't simply about execution; I personally feel that inking inherently limits what I can do with color and mood. You should continue with manga if that's what you love doing, but it'd be great if you varied your approach. There are many ways to do it. Try something more painterly and see how that works.
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zwimmy Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
I love cute chicks as much as the next guy, but your work really stands out, to me at least, for a variety of reasons, such as your excellent colouring skills, accurate anatomy, highly detailed backgrounds, lively characters and your damned slick vehicle designs. I believe that there is more to drawing than simply lines and colours. Some artists, like you, have a certain ability to really bring their creations to life. It's like you're not simply arranging lines and colours in a way to look nice, but you're actually creating people, places and things that feel like they really exist somewhere in the universe or whatever.

If you want to mix it up a bit and try some of that fine art stuff, by all means, go for it! I'd be interested in seeing what you'd come up with. The most important thing however, is that you do what YOU want to do.
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LovesDarkness Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
Well seeing as I'm a girl...the fact that a lot of what you draw is sexy racy females is completely irrelevant to me. If it had been sexy god like men...that's a different story XD

Honestly...I follow you and enjoy your art because I appreciate your style, and I greatly admire your colouring technique and how talented you are...and it makes me want to be as good as you one day. In essence you inspire me and motivate me to keep moving forward and try to become better.

But I digress...if this is the way that you are starting to feel about your work...then perhaps you should experiment with new styles...try drawing things that you wouldn't normally draw. Maybe try a more realistic technique. Try not to draw your female characters as sexed up...perhaps you should even start trying to draw men more, as I remember at one point a few years ago at Anime North when I requested a commission of my character Talan, you said that it would be better if you did my character Sasha, because you weren't very good with men and drawing women was better for you. Reaching out and trying new things would never hurt, and if you learn something new then that's a plus. I can safely say I would very much enjoy anything new and interesting you came up with. And anyone who stops watching you because you decide to not draw sexy Capcom girls as much and try to branch out into something new...well...they were never true fans to begin with.
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dadicus Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
PREACH ON SISSTA'
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LovesDarkness Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
lol...thanx
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yezzzsir Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
Omar You gotta draw what ever it is that gives you that buzz! ( you know the one where you just can't put down that pen even though rational thought tells you its waaaaay past your bedtime!..... Like 8 hours lol!!) You are lucky enough to be earning a living doing what you love and even though you are questioning things (with good reason mind) you have to remember that's just part & parcel of graphic design.
The plus side is that your fan base will likewise appreciate whatever you bring to the table (whether it has bouncing breasts or not lol!) I've loved you vehicle work & I'm also keenly interested in seeing your original comic series too. wanna see what drives you mate.

Anyway not sure if this helped or made things worse

Best regards,

Marcus
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Rovanna Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010   Digital Artist
I love the way you draw faces and how lively their expressions are. That's why I started watching you.
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Maphisto86 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
I would love to see more original art from you Omar. While I love your Capcom stuff, your automobile drawings and the like, I think you could do anything you set your mind to. Yes I know that is a cliche saying but I mean it. What did your instructor mean by "fine art"exactly? Landscapes? Different art styles like impressionism, romantic, etc?
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Lutra-Gem Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So many people have put such deep, thoughtful comments here... Still, I'll throw in my two cents.

Personally, the picture that first attracted me I think isn't in your gallery any longer, but I think it was a blonde girl in a ballgown, if I remember correctly and that means anything... I have deep admiration for your technical skills, with excellent lines, perspective and the most amazing backgrounds. Still, I reckon that the girls are the most well-known aspect of your art, especially those, uh, displaying their physique and form, to put it one way - not necessarily poses intentionally sexual, but ones that could be interpreted as suggestive or ones informing the imagination. You're paying the bills, and working for a franchise appealing to a male population widely considered to find tightly-clad ladies fighting to be very attractive, even erotic. As a woman myself, I'm entirely convinced by the outfits or their practicality, but I can sort of see how they're marketable.

I can understand that you're concerned, and I admire that you are willing to speak out about that concern. I think that your mentor may be right in some respects - there is never any harm in trying something new (in art, at any rate). Maybe you'll find that you don't enjoy it, but at least you can say that you didn't reject the idea on principle.

I really hope that you're able to work on your 5C project though - it sounds like you're having an awful lot of fun with it, and it shows in your work. Plus, as it's yours, you get to choose just how much needs to be revealed.
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Keosutoushin Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
Huh. Interesting food for thought.

To be honest, I was initially attracted to your gallery due to your BGs and Ibuki art. I tend to like ninja characters for some reason. <shrugs>

Although, I haven't been watching you for that long, so I'll just leave some very generic advice, which might not be all that useful.

I'm one that admires you to pursue art in your own sense, judging by this journal entry. However, you are questioning whether or not your recent art style is really your style. If you're questioning your actions, your actions probably aren't true to yourself. You seem to believe that you are doing something that's in the gray area of art according to your own beliefs and ideals. So before you delve deeper into the animation art industry, I'd try to define whether this actually is right for you, or if it actually is wrong for you.

I also admire that you try to pursue a morale style of art and question the female art you do. I'm slightly old fashioned like that though, haha. Personally, I think if you want to develop your art style, your instructor is right, try out the fine arts. It would prove more beneficial to artistic growth than animation will.
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QUICKMASTER Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Student Filmographer
- This is a good sign , you know . when you starting bored with your own style , In my perspective , It mean you are going to evolve into something better, a lot of people sticks with the same position and don't notice what is beyond them.

- I think you already do the real art, right now.

I am not a famous artist and not an art teacher but I would recommend you to do something different , you might watch a new kind of movie , get involve in a new kind of working field , talk with different people , etc.

and I HOPE YOU FIND YOUR ANSWER.


PS , sorry for my poor English grammar.
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Soulbrotha Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not what you draw but how draw that draws everyone to your work (no pun intended, but my vocabulary is failing me right now). Personally speaking, the first time I saw your art was through Udon comics. Although it doesn't really show, I tried to mimic a lot of the techniques that you and Alvin Lee used when I was trying to learn digital coloring. I know that didn't really answer the question you were asking, but I just wanted to throw that out there.
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UltraBoo Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Student Digital Artist
The reason I follow you is definitely because of your amazing color set which I'm a huge fan of. I love your backgrounds to no end. X3 But I also love the way you draw your characters. I can't put my finger on it but I can say that I actually prefer your male characters to your female. What I think though, is that you should draw whatever you feel like doing. Don't restrict yourself to a certain style because it has a following, try out new things and live in the moment. :3
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UltraBoo Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Oh, and your work has a lot of exploding energy in it which I adore. It's hard to find these days. :>
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ThunderManEXE Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There are some huge comments down there haha
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justherefortheview Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
It's always good to expand your repertoire, if you can.
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RainingBullets Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010
The female character you draw does leave a strong impression, but for me I think I know you better for you're drawings of cars and clean detailed backgrounds. So between pleasing the crowd (therefore making a living) and chasing after what you think is right (or dream), is basically a problem everybody have or will have I believe. Usually it's one or the other, in only rare cases you can find a situation that satisfies both ends of the bargain. But whatever choice you make, I'm pretty sure people here will support you, and as long as you see it through, it'll end up okay.
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Renezuo Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010  Student Digital Artist
I see a lot of artists coming across this personal cross roads lately. It's a tough thing to really offer advice on, and I find that a lot of fine artists like your instructor actually give the same advice. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to attack or insult anyone. But hearing this from so many people, I also hear this scenario a few times over as well.

It seems to me, maybe not with you but at large, that the concern is about legacy. Is this why we do art? To leave something behind or to be remembered by or remembered for? Perhaps that's just part of the larger human "thing" we all have going on. But generally I do art because of a personal gratification I get from it coupled with the gratification I can bring to the lives of other people.

If you were to take a quick look at my gallery it may seem as though I'm biased towards the "draw hot chicks and exploit the female form" thing. While I do enjoy my ladies, I do acknowledge that what works for me doesn't work for everyone. I had a similar crisis about this stuff some time ago and I began to fight myself on it, push myself to do other things. It seems that whatever "part" in my brain that controls my ability to execute art threw a tantrum. It wanted to do what it wanted, and wasn't gonna help me with anything else until it got what it wanted. So I try to balance it out a little bit every so often....with varying success.

What it came down to though is that it was something that I felt inclined to do, something I enjoyed doing, and something I did without a real malicious intent to it. Some people would regard such work as exploitation, I think you could make a case for a lot of things in the Art world like that if you really wanted to, but nudity is still a "hot button" in our society as is anything sexual in general. So it's kind of the "go to".

Now I now I've rambled a bit but I'll level with you Omar. I don't watch you for the chicks in any sexually interested way. I admire your execution of them sure. But your style both in lines, setup, and (most importantly to me) the color is what draws me back. I like hearing about our various interests and whether or not you do a chick, a dude, or a car, you always do it well. Perhaps some of your work as circulated based off of the female form, comics can do that sometimes, but I urge you to take that with a grain of salt and consider what it is you enjoy doing. Art isn't gonna happen, I don't think, if you force yourself to do something that doesn't touch on that special something we get when we sit down to a blank sheet of paper or step back from a finished piece.

Really consider what's appealing to you. What gets your energy going. I firmly believe that the drive to create is something unique in various people, and that it has its own face. It's a gift from whatever it is one feels set humanity in motion, and I always feel like I'm railing against something mightier than me to attempt to regulate too strictly in any way. If the sexy girls are NOT doing it for you in your heart of hearts and all you can muster for it is regret or shame...drop it and go to something else you truly desire.

It's the best advice I can give, especially being someone still several steps behind you in terms of skill and success. XD
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