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Journal Entry: Tue Jul 15, 2014, 11:04 PM
I remember a time when I would come on here routinely and vent all my feelings for no other reason than just that.

I think part of the reason I felt the need to do that here is because in my mind, you liking my art means potentially you like me as a person. This is not necessarily the case, but maybe in some instances it is.

Since a while back when all of us UDON folks went off to our own places away from a centralized studio, I've started to feel a sort of distance from the scene and my cohorts. As time went on, I got married and now have two kids, while manyof my coworkers don't and that is not a chastisement.

However, having a family of your own is a full time thing and one that needs constant communication and planning to get the most of. Many things that seem so unclear manifest themselves only well after the point, and all in all its a learning game that never stops.

Because of a number of factors, I also just turned off all external media out of sheer disinterest. I never watched tv and it has been turned off in our home for over one year. I want to throw it out, its and old CRT Trinitron. I stopped reading any manga or books, stopped playing any video games, and I don't have an interest in movies.

I said to myself, be the one to make the story and entertainment, not imbibe it. And as a result you have 5C.

What this means is that many a time I have nothing at all in common to talk to my cohorts about, since most of what they'll talk about is entertainment. I am concerned about my kids and my marriage and those are distant issues they don't care to relate to or can't even if they wanted to. I am not laying judgement, but I assure you it is a fact many folks nowadays go sailing into their thirties with no desire for marriage or kids whatsoever. That's their choice and I respect it.

But obviously, this creates a rift. I've been dubbed responsible, and I actually heard things like " you have kids? But you're a young guy!" when I was 32. It's lifestyle choice, and everyone is allowed to choice what they like and reap the rewards and consequences alike.

Now this is where you guys come in.

When you guys comment on my art, especially on 5th Capsule, I really get a lot of support. I mean, I look forward to your comments. My day is basically in complete silence, I just work and am left with my thoughts, I get home and spend time with my family, but again none of the things I love can be discussed with ease or understanding, and I am talking about art. My wife isn't an artist, and we talk mostly about family stuff and other things.

I've made my decisions on life and have no regrets, though it has left me a bit of an oddball in the industry in a way. I have no close friends that I talk to on the norm as we no longer have anything in common and my time is so limited and they live far away, but having you guys comment and interact really makes my day.

It really does help me a lot. You may see yourselves as fans, but a good deal of you I consider friends because you actually care what I'm doing, how I'm progressing, and my striving.

So here's to you guys, I appreciate you and hope all of you have great things in your life whatever you chose and that I can at the very least provide you with decent entertainment!

Asalaamu Alaikum = Peace be upon you!



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ArynChris Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014
I understand how you feel!  Most of my cohort is, well... gamers and college students.  My life went in a very different direction, and things like TV shows and the newest popular book series just aren't interesting anymore.  I have more important things in my life now.  I have to deal with health and financial problems that most people I know do not, and I'm focused on the worlds and stories I'm creating myself... but all that distances me from other people my age.  It seems as if I have nothing in common-- and nothing to talk about-- with anyone who isn't in a similar situation or who is a fan of my characters.

But I hope that's not a permanent thing, for me or for you. ^^;  It gets lonely.
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Ten28 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014
Your art has always brought a smile to my face, from the Udon times to now.

I hope to see 5th Capsule out on shelves soon.
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Seventhdaysoldier Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
I very much understand what your saying.
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fajar-rizky Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
you decreased your amount of watching TV, that's somewhat a good idea if you lived here in indonesia Kitten Rocks 
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TheRounItami Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Even as primarily a DeviantART lurker, who just comes online, checks his watchlist and logs out... this was pretty touching man.

You are hands down my favourite artist.  It's not just something about your style but everything about your style that really resonates with me.  From your lineart to your colours, the sheer depth and breath of your talent is awe-inspiring.  I mean, I'm half decent at character design... mediocre at posing and suck at vehicles, the fact that you can do that all AND story-write AND story-board is a long list of pretty amazing, enviable and genuinely inspiring talents.  So the fact that you consider us fans to be friends is ridiculously humbling, man.

Keep up the good work and enjoy the life that you've chosen for yourself.
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SaintOfTheDragons Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Wow, I think it's so cool the path you've taken.
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Kyuuen Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
I will always consider you one of my favorite artists. The Dan / Sakura cover of Sakura Legends is my all time favorite comic book cover.

With 5C, you are living a dream (that I'm sure that everyone who has created their own character desires) - bringing your OC's to realization in a professionally done, full color publication that is good enough to sell on a comic rack.
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FalyneVarger Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Professional General Artist
I don't comment often because I feel like my words get lost in all of the internet noise. But since the support and feedback really do influence you, I'll make a point to comment on the pages. :)
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Professional General Artist
much obliged!
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AEgln Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
I think that even between your coworkers, there must be one or some that care about your life.
Friends are those, those that even without same interest, same background, or same context... talk with you, interest in your stuff, and get happy for your achievements like when the little kid start to babbling some words, or he/she takes a sheet and struggle with a happiness that enlighten your day... :D
Don't give up with people. :highfive:
Thanks for sharing, as always, the truth from inside you.
Peace be upon you too!!! :)
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DarkJazmin11 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Late reply is late.  Why people think having kids at age 32 is YOUNG.... Really? What you choose? Destroying your childhood having kids at age 16 like every gals in the world or do what? :| Really?! Nothing wrong with that. The aqe is perfectly, important is to have someone who loves you, but I totally understand you about the art support. Non artists in our lives it makes really difficult to keep ourselves  motivated, not even Mother Nature, Animes, Mangas or whatever it made us motivate will help us. Why? We need people's support, need their warm comments and cheers to lift us up and push us from behind to continue doing whatever we love doing it, first for us and the for the others. I know you have responsabilities, but don't close/isolate yourself from the world, even if you are an adult, you still are  the kid from the inside, don't forget the reason you live, the reason you doing all this. Supporting is very important, you have it and I wish you can have more. Do things for yourself, live for yourself and family and keep the talent high for your friends who are supporting you, because I SUPPORT GOOD and EPIC DRAWING of yours man! Quality, true art and devotion! Cheers! :ahoy:
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MoonlitCrescent Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
Aww, we all loves you too :hug:
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jagged-eye Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional Photographer
There are never clear roads for anyone in this life. If life was easy they would call it "easy" instead of "life". You are making your own path and that can be often a scary lonely road. As people age I have noted a serious drift away from anything they used to love or obsess about. This seems like a normal symptom of the day to day wear down grind we all go though. It is not a healthy issue but I think it has a lot to do with how we become more and more disconnected from one another. Even our own spouses!

Relationships take effort and energy at any level, friend, family, or business. Ask yourself, when was the last time you made the effort to actually call a friend or family member?  With our mass media pop culture it is easy to mistake reading someones status update as genuine interest in that person! There is no effort in liking something someone said. It takes real courage to face people in public these days and actually deal with the chatter and silence of a true conversation! Show interest in others and they might return the favor.

It takes even more energy to take actual time and actually listen to someone else without thinking about your next sentence about yourself! Sharing comfortable silence? That barely exists! How often when you are with friends do you see them go for their cell phones and ipad's to play a game or check their status while the uncomfortable lull in the conversation hangs overhead?  It is a horrible habit and disrespectful in my own mind. Take a look around your family, maybe that is what is happening and where some of your home disconnect is stemming from? When my friends agree to come hang at my home and I see the lull bring out the phones I actually make a verbal note about it and ask them to put them away, like we were in grade school. They may still day dream and not pay attention to what we are talking about in the moment but at least there is one less distraction.

 In the end you have your own passions, and it is rare to share them with the ones you love. Love your passion but do not expect others to understand them or share them with you. It is like trying to force a horse to drink after you brought them to water. Keep communication up to the best of your ability and never give up what makes you unique. In the end you will regret it and hate yourself and others for it.

You know what is important to you. Follow your heart. JE
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Professional General Artist
I do follow my heart.
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elsevilla Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I dont think its healthy to destroy your inner child man, why not watch new anime with your kids, i do that all the time with my two nieces of 6 and 3 years old, and they love it. Remember that art its to be informed of whats going on in the media, for example, its like being a doctor. Each day new techniques in medicine comes out, so doctors needs to study and be updated, or younger patients will start going to other doctors because you will be outdated. Its like a knife, you need to sharp it once in a while.

Hope to see ya at the con in san diego, you are going right? We can talk about this with a coke drink or something, its an interesting topic, will be really cool to heard your opinion.


And yeah we all are on the same boat, call me crazy but sometimes i talk to myself while i draw, ad the strangest thing "i reply".
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional General Artist
Good points loco!

Next year I'll be at SDCC man, and we'll have a sketch session.
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elsevilla Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Damn, who is coming this year?
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mtcomic Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014
I agree with you.  Creating ideas in a vacuum is not a long-term solution.  Eventually you have to turn back to the world to get some inspiration.  Quitting anime and manga, however, is not a big loss.  There is very little inspiration from that department nowadays, and most stories are rather derivative.
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elsevilla Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Lets say you are right, and i go an live all my entire life in an island, then i return with this idea of giants trying to eat people inside a land covered with big walls, then realize Shingeki already did this. To create something original, you need to see what its on the market and do the thing you think they need. I dont say you must copy what you see in anime or manga, im saying you need an anchor with reality market, because artists ideas age faster.
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elsevilla Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
You still need an anchor, to know what the market is, not knowing what people like this days its a bad thing. You can be creative as you like but that stuff wont sell. As an illustrator you want to sell, you dont want a unique thing that wont sell at all.
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DeepDark00-0 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014
So many warm fuzzies.
You are awesome.
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Psycho-Werekitsune Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I want to find the words to tell you how much of an inspiration you are for myself and others like me, because someone with a relatively similar cultural background managed to make something of themselves in a very harsh industry with their incredible talents, but would probably fall flat on my face trying to be so verbose. I am, by no means, a professional artist, nor do I have any plans on becoming one (art is just a hobby for me), but I appreciate art, and I appreciate talent. You're an inspiration to us all, man, and a role model we should all follow. Being a family man is a big deal and a sign of maturity. How you run your household is your business and, as long as you raise your kids right and create a nurturing environment for them, then no one can ever fault you.

I know I'm just another random fan on your page, but I just wanted you to know how important you are to some of us. Thanks for being around and thanks for being you.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional General Artist
You're not another random fan, and i 'm thankful that I have fans like you.
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Psycho-Werekitsune Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Glad I could do my part. n_n
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Engraver78 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
as a fan of yours, i really appreciated about your feeling towards your other fans. i really like 5C and hopefully you will strive more in life
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional General Artist
Glad you appreciate it!
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mbretschneider Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
I changed accounts, we chat about music (i have lost that drum-n-bass/breakbeat playlist you sent me on youtube 5 years ago) , i questioned you about islam before your 1st daughter, in my book you are a friend in cannada and if i ever hit it there im wanting to meet and greet

i love the way 5C goes on  , and i really wish you enjoy the most of it, because as i fan i feel that every second i wait is well worth it!

I have distanced myself from comics , having only reading some special editions and things like that because the quality dropped a lot (or i just outgrew things  i liked?) but man , things like 5c make me come back, ALWAYS
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Awesome !

As for DnB I have been listening to a lot of accelerated culture sets from the turn of the century, andy c, zinc, and blackamrket. and brockie too.
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RLN Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
So much of what you wrote and what others have written in response,  there is nothing left for me to say that hasn't already been said.  What I do know is that you and I are roughly the same age with similar home environments.  You do GREAT things with your talent and just having a conversation with you is a honor and privelage from my end.  You want to swap kid stories and growing pains, I'd be delighted.  You want to vent some ideas and get opinions, I'd be happy to help till you tell me to shut up.  You're putting yourself out there a bit, showing your personal side.  As fans, let us return the favor back to you =D
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Much appreciated!

I've always made sure the person you see here is the actual person I am, I don't do that whole public and private face thing.
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Derivitive Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014   Traditional Artist
It's amazing where our passions take us isn't it? I am a great fan of your work after all these years, I remember seeing you one time at Calgary Comic Expo and I was FROZEN, I ended up not coming up to you and saying hello, but if the chance ever arises again, I'd like to pay to visit :)

Wish you all the best in your journey! 
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I'm planning to be back at Calgary this year coming, so Ill expect to see you there.
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Derivitive Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014   Traditional Artist
You're on! 
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aaronmizuno Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
It's a rough situation, but I'm happy to hear about it.

It's always nice to hear that you're not the only one who has walked away from a lot of what is "normal" to devote yourself to your characters' lives.

What you do is important. Sure... for a lot of people watching your stories it's a 10-15 second devouring of several hours of your life. There are others who are genuinely touched, that carry their story with them. People who think about these characters you're giving so much of your time to. People who accept them and even have genuine feelings toward them.

Even further, I'm happy you posted this because you're more than just a conduit for your characters. You're just as deserving of being known as they are.... which I'm sure you know. I'm rambling. xD

I'll keep watching as long as you keep posting. :3 You're doing great! 
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
10 - 15 seconds for like 8 hours of work, amazing isn't it?
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aaronmizuno Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Back in the livejournal days, a friend posted what was supposed to be a creepypasta, but I found it rather inspiring.

It was based around the idea of adding time onto your life span based on how much time others spent looking at the thing you made. Sure, most will spend only that 10-15 seconds peeking at all your hard work, but multiply that by the 2,000 who looked at your latest page, or the 10,000 who have peeked at the comic you promote on your front page?

Through those two pages alone, that would add up to (through some averaging) over 43 hours of appreciation and, in some cases, adoration. xD
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Insanepayne Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
(TvT)  I don't know that feel but I feel that feel in a way that is almost similar, minus a bunch of things and plus a few things.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
What a comment lol, thanks!
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Sethyuikora Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Always good to hear appreciation for our appreciation Omar.  Many artists can sometimes get a little full of themselves and forget that their fans are indeed human as well, and by that means, relatable.

Hope your life is going well and continues to do so if it is.  I really should get around to reading 5C...but I bought Girl7, so that's a plus, right?  :iconyay:
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I hate the industry for that sort of "Hey, I'm an artist, too bad you have to suck" attitude.

I am just a guy who's thing is to draw and tell stories, other people have other cool attributes and everyone has something.

We're born, we eat, it comes out, we die. There's no room to be arrogant.
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Sethyuikora Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Amen
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johnchalos Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I don't have cable but I have Netflix. Most movies from the past ten years have been a bit disappointing. There are exceptions, of course.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ill take your word for it.
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ProjektKitsune Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Your passion, drive and dedication is what makes you perhaps one of the most unique artists and person I have ever encountered. Your indomitable spirit shows in your work, art is a means of visually communicating and at times that's more than enough than mere words. Keep on doing what you're doing, your family is blessed to have you.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I'm trying may ass off to make this great, two asses worth.
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JoshScranton Featured By Owner Edited Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It happens, priorities change and you got a family and career to care for. Glad that we can in some way add a little more to your day. Tbh I wouldn't mind being in the same boat as you one day. I've recently realized the amount of time other things take up for me and have been trying to cut them back and start focusing on being more productive. 

Im kind of in that position at my current place of employment.

Im the very nerdy, techy guy who is into art, audio/video, etc. and they are the sports, celebrities, bands types (all of which i dont know about really).  We may not have that much in common but we still find things to talk about and such because we all want to. I may not get it all, but i try to get active with it and because we all try it ends up being proactive. I cant say for certain but it seems from the little info I have here they dont want to make the effort to be interested in your interests? I know you're probably not lookin for my view on it lol, but I will say glad we here at DA can be of help in just supporting your work :]
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
You are an outgoing person it would seem, which is a good thing.
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XEarlGreyX Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
awesome I'm glad we do that for you
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I will read these all more in depth tonight when I get back from work, thanks for the thoughts guys!
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OmegaDez Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
What can I say about this issue that hasn't been covered already?

First, I didn't even know that the Udon crew didn't work together in some office thing. It must feel a bit lonely.

But this is coming from me, a guy who's at the other side of the spectrum from you.

I'm the same age as you are, but hopelessly single. It's not by choice, every day of my life, I long to settle down and have kids, but it seems like women have little love to give to overweight geeks like me. The older I'm getting, the less likely I am going to have kids, and it pains me.  I guess this just how men are hardwired in the end. Reproducing

So the only thing I could do to fill that void was friends and entertainment. But it got to a point where those weren't enough anymore, so I started drawing my own webcomic, Frivolesque. To give me some sort of purpose in life.

It kinda worked though. Aside from my day job, it's basically the only thing I do now in my free time, with little time for video games, tv series or movies. (with a few exceptions)

Stopping hanging with my friend, though, was never even an option. They mean the world to me. :)

So yeah. My webcomic will probably never be as good (or as popular, lol) as 5C, but it's still hugely time-consuming. It does manage to fill a good chunk of that big hole in my life. And it allowed me to meet more artistically inclined people too, that I used to fill the holes in my friend lineup left by those who, like you, decided not to see their friends anymore once family happened. ;)
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