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The good ol' days

Journal Entry: Tue Jul 15, 2014, 11:04 PM
I remember a time when I would come on here routinely and vent all my feelings for no other reason than just that.

I think part of the reason I felt the need to do that here is because in my mind, you liking my art means potentially you like me as a person. This is not necessarily the case, but maybe in some instances it is.

Since a while back when all of us UDON folks went off to our own places away from a centralized studio, I've started to feel a sort of distance from the scene and my cohorts. As time went on, I got married and now have two kids, while manyof my coworkers don't and that is not a chastisement.

However, having a family of your own is a full time thing and one that needs constant communication and planning to get the most of. Many things that seem so unclear manifest themselves only well after the point, and all in all its a learning game that never stops.

Because of a number of factors, I also just turned off all external media out of sheer disinterest. I never watched tv and it has been turned off in our home for over one year. I want to throw it out, its and old CRT Trinitron. I stopped reading any manga or books, stopped playing any video games, and I don't have an interest in movies.

I said to myself, be the one to make the story and entertainment, not imbibe it. And as a result you have 5C.

What this means is that many a time I have nothing at all in common to talk to my cohorts about, since most of what they'll talk about is entertainment. I am concerned about my kids and my marriage and those are distant issues they don't care to relate to or can't even if they wanted to. I am not laying judgement, but I assure you it is a fact many folks nowadays go sailing into their thirties with no desire for marriage or kids whatsoever. That's their choice and I respect it.

But obviously, this creates a rift. I've been dubbed responsible, and I actually heard things like " you have kids? But you're a young guy!" when I was 32. It's lifestyle choice, and everyone is allowed to choice what they like and reap the rewards and consequences alike.

Now this is where you guys come in.

When you guys comment on my art, especially on 5th Capsule, I really get a lot of support. I mean, I look forward to your comments. My day is basically in complete silence, I just work and am left with my thoughts, I get home and spend time with my family, but again none of the things I love can be discussed with ease or understanding, and I am talking about art. My wife isn't an artist, and we talk mostly about family stuff and other things.

I've made my decisions on life and have no regrets, though it has left me a bit of an oddball in the industry in a way. I have no close friends that I talk to on the norm as we no longer have anything in common and my time is so limited and they live far away, but having you guys comment and interact really makes my day.

It really does help me a lot. You may see yourselves as fans, but a good deal of you I consider friends because you actually care what I'm doing, how I'm progressing, and my striving.

So here's to you guys, I appreciate you and hope all of you have great things in your life whatever you chose and that I can at the very least provide you with decent entertainment!

Asalaamu Alaikum = Peace be upon you!



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DeepDark00-0 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014
So many warm fuzzies.
You are awesome.
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Psycho-Werekitsune Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I want to find the words to tell you how much of an inspiration you are for myself and others like me, because someone with a relatively similar cultural background managed to make something of themselves in a very harsh industry with their incredible talents, but would probably fall flat on my face trying to be so verbose. I am, by no means, a professional artist, nor do I have any plans on becoming one (art is just a hobby for me), but I appreciate art, and I appreciate talent. You're an inspiration to us all, man, and a role model we should all follow. Being a family man is a big deal and a sign of maturity. How you run your household is your business and, as long as you raise your kids right and create a nurturing environment for them, then no one can ever fault you.

I know I'm just another random fan on your page, but I just wanted you to know how important you are to some of us. Thanks for being around and thanks for being you.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional General Artist
You're not another random fan, and i 'm thankful that I have fans like you.
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Psycho-Werekitsune Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Glad I could do my part. n_n
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Engraver78 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
as a fan of yours, i really appreciated about your feeling towards your other fans. i really like 5C and hopefully you will strive more in life
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Professional General Artist
Glad you appreciate it!
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mbretschneider Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
I changed accounts, we chat about music (i have lost that drum-n-bass/breakbeat playlist you sent me on youtube 5 years ago) , i questioned you about islam before your 1st daughter, in my book you are a friend in cannada and if i ever hit it there im wanting to meet and greet

i love the way 5C goes on  , and i really wish you enjoy the most of it, because as i fan i feel that every second i wait is well worth it!

I have distanced myself from comics , having only reading some special editions and things like that because the quality dropped a lot (or i just outgrew things  i liked?) but man , things like 5c make me come back, ALWAYS
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Awesome !

As for DnB I have been listening to a lot of accelerated culture sets from the turn of the century, andy c, zinc, and blackamrket. and brockie too.
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RLN Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
So much of what you wrote and what others have written in response,  there is nothing left for me to say that hasn't already been said.  What I do know is that you and I are roughly the same age with similar home environments.  You do GREAT things with your talent and just having a conversation with you is a honor and privelage from my end.  You want to swap kid stories and growing pains, I'd be delighted.  You want to vent some ideas and get opinions, I'd be happy to help till you tell me to shut up.  You're putting yourself out there a bit, showing your personal side.  As fans, let us return the favor back to you =D
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Much appreciated!

I've always made sure the person you see here is the actual person I am, I don't do that whole public and private face thing.
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Derivitive Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014   Traditional Artist
It's amazing where our passions take us isn't it? I am a great fan of your work after all these years, I remember seeing you one time at Calgary Comic Expo and I was FROZEN, I ended up not coming up to you and saying hello, but if the chance ever arises again, I'd like to pay to visit :)

Wish you all the best in your journey! 
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I'm planning to be back at Calgary this year coming, so Ill expect to see you there.
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Derivitive Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014   Traditional Artist
You're on! 
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aaronmizuno Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
It's a rough situation, but I'm happy to hear about it.

It's always nice to hear that you're not the only one who has walked away from a lot of what is "normal" to devote yourself to your characters' lives.

What you do is important. Sure... for a lot of people watching your stories it's a 10-15 second devouring of several hours of your life. There are others who are genuinely touched, that carry their story with them. People who think about these characters you're giving so much of your time to. People who accept them and even have genuine feelings toward them.

Even further, I'm happy you posted this because you're more than just a conduit for your characters. You're just as deserving of being known as they are.... which I'm sure you know. I'm rambling. xD

I'll keep watching as long as you keep posting. :3 You're doing great! 
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
10 - 15 seconds for like 8 hours of work, amazing isn't it?
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aaronmizuno Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Back in the livejournal days, a friend posted what was supposed to be a creepypasta, but I found it rather inspiring.

It was based around the idea of adding time onto your life span based on how much time others spent looking at the thing you made. Sure, most will spend only that 10-15 seconds peeking at all your hard work, but multiply that by the 2,000 who looked at your latest page, or the 10,000 who have peeked at the comic you promote on your front page?

Through those two pages alone, that would add up to (through some averaging) over 43 hours of appreciation and, in some cases, adoration. xD
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Insanepayne Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
(TvT)  I don't know that feel but I feel that feel in a way that is almost similar, minus a bunch of things and plus a few things.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
What a comment lol, thanks!
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Sethyuikora Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Always good to hear appreciation for our appreciation Omar.  Many artists can sometimes get a little full of themselves and forget that their fans are indeed human as well, and by that means, relatable.

Hope your life is going well and continues to do so if it is.  I really should get around to reading 5C...but I bought Girl7, so that's a plus, right?  :iconyay:
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I hate the industry for that sort of "Hey, I'm an artist, too bad you have to suck" attitude.

I am just a guy who's thing is to draw and tell stories, other people have other cool attributes and everyone has something.

We're born, we eat, it comes out, we die. There's no room to be arrogant.
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Sethyuikora Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Amen
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johnchalos Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I don't have cable but I have Netflix. Most movies from the past ten years have been a bit disappointing. There are exceptions, of course.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ill take your word for it.
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ProjektKitsune Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Your passion, drive and dedication is what makes you perhaps one of the most unique artists and person I have ever encountered. Your indomitable spirit shows in your work, art is a means of visually communicating and at times that's more than enough than mere words. Keep on doing what you're doing, your family is blessed to have you.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I'm trying may ass off to make this great, two asses worth.
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JoshScranton Featured By Owner Edited Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It happens, priorities change and you got a family and career to care for. Glad that we can in some way add a little more to your day. Tbh I wouldn't mind being in the same boat as you one day. I've recently realized the amount of time other things take up for me and have been trying to cut them back and start focusing on being more productive. 

Im kind of in that position at my current place of employment.

Im the very nerdy, techy guy who is into art, audio/video, etc. and they are the sports, celebrities, bands types (all of which i dont know about really).  We may not have that much in common but we still find things to talk about and such because we all want to. I may not get it all, but i try to get active with it and because we all try it ends up being proactive. I cant say for certain but it seems from the little info I have here they dont want to make the effort to be interested in your interests? I know you're probably not lookin for my view on it lol, but I will say glad we here at DA can be of help in just supporting your work :]
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
You are an outgoing person it would seem, which is a good thing.
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XEarlGreyX Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
awesome I'm glad we do that for you
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I will read these all more in depth tonight when I get back from work, thanks for the thoughts guys!
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OmegaDez Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
What can I say about this issue that hasn't been covered already?

First, I didn't even know that the Udon crew didn't work together in some office thing. It must feel a bit lonely.

But this is coming from me, a guy who's at the other side of the spectrum from you.

I'm the same age as you are, but hopelessly single. It's not by choice, every day of my life, I long to settle down and have kids, but it seems like women have little love to give to overweight geeks like me. The older I'm getting, the less likely I am going to have kids, and it pains me.  I guess this just how men are hardwired in the end. Reproducing

So the only thing I could do to fill that void was friends and entertainment. But it got to a point where those weren't enough anymore, so I started drawing my own webcomic, Frivolesque. To give me some sort of purpose in life.

It kinda worked though. Aside from my day job, it's basically the only thing I do now in my free time, with little time for video games, tv series or movies. (with a few exceptions)

Stopping hanging with my friend, though, was never even an option. They mean the world to me. :)

So yeah. My webcomic will probably never be as good (or as popular, lol) as 5C, but it's still hugely time-consuming. It does manage to fill a good chunk of that big hole in my life. And it allowed me to meet more artistically inclined people too, that I used to fill the holes in my friend lineup left by those who, like you, decided not to see their friends anymore once family happened. ;)
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Edited Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
In some ways I can relate as you see above, the one thing I found I have tobe very careful about is not being so obsessive of my work to the the point I don't notice the outside world.

It has become like that sometimes, like that scene from the 80's movies with the alien contact and the guy is moulding a mountina shape out of his mashed poatoes.
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OmegaDez Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
It's a 70s movie. ;)

And well. I'm a bit like that. Sometimes, the only thing I ever think or talk about is my webcomic, much to the chagrin of my friends. :(
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Calaca35 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
👍👍👍
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murici0 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's hard to work with entertainment media and still have little or no interest about it. Things are too self-centered. Live your life, observe yourself, observe the little things in life. That'll give you material to work. With all the things you said, your life is happening, these are the things that happen to people, not everybody is about entertainment so hardcore. There are other lifestyles. :-)
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N8Dogg5k Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad I can be there for you Omar. Honestly I feel like we always have something to talk about whenever we meet up. We don't talk about entertainment, but usually things like science, philosophy, and culture. That sort of stuff really interests me, along with all my usual nerdy stuff too. Heck, if I remember correctly you should have my phone number. If you ever want to just chat or shoot the bull, my phone is always on bro!
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Much obliged, I'd raher come down there for Otakon next yea.
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N8Dogg5k Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd love to have you down here. Just remember that mine and Matt's door is always open dude!
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Alexandros-Derveron Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While I would agree that you're certainly different from a lot of other artists, I think that's a good thing too. There's nothing wrong with being disconnected from the media either, if anything, I sometimes feel like more people should disconnect themselves from all media sometimes, just to calm down, have a moment to think and be themselves again (however, I'm not judging anyone for engaging in all kinds of media. If that's what makes a person happy, they should pursue that happiness by all means!)

It's nice reading your journals and I'd say you're not an oddball. In my opinion, you have that kind of normal life that I would love for myself as well. But I'm only 27, I haven't even found a direction for my life yet, except for this distant dream of marriage and settling down, coming to terms with myself.

In short, everything you've written in this journal makes you an admirable person in my books :)
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I found when I turned off everything, my imagination and observation increased. I started to day dream more, and make up stories.

Thank for the kind words!
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Alexandros-Derveron Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, I know that all too well! It's the only way I can ever get more ideas for a story or sometimes for artwork, so technically, I probably shouldn't be playing videogames so often and just listen to some ambient music instead (mostly because my friends are also desperately waiting for the continuation of a story I've started. They apparently like it enough to want to know how things work out, haha).

You're very welcome :)
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ernestlamoureuxinc Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

I understand, I got my kids before thirty, and keeping friend around it's a sort of challenge... I got devoted to my family for twenty years and now I can watch anime, read manga, draw on the street and the (grown up) kids follow me.


I'm approaching forty now and taking good time with your family, it pay back!


Have a great whatever (day, evening, night)

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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thanks man, not far from 40 myself!

Well, my two daughters both love drawing, though I don't push it on them...
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imagni Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
.... oh GOOD so i'm not weird XDD;; I go to these conventions and see all this popculture stuff and i have no idea what most of it is. It's kind of embarrassing when people ask me what my most recent favourite anime is or what comics I read... because I don't really. I don't have the motivation or the time (other than projects that have my direct attention by friends, because i deem them more valuable). The comics industry has always kind of been daunting to me because i don't know the first thing about any of the big names, who's famous, what super hero is what, what is considered 'good' art. Our TV is downstairs and I never sit downstairs, so I've not watched TV for 2 years since i moved house. (I HATE TV)

A lot of people think you must be DIRECTLY inspired/knowledgeable by the work of others in order to explore what you are good at yourself, but i think there's a direct danger of being too samey or a copycat then. I try to just do my own thing and if some professional or whoever thinks it's not legit enough, then who cares :D  I think being immersed in stuff is fan territory. Being a creator means you have less motivation for that. Creator vs consumer. My comic is actually about that... >_>;

Me and my guy don't have a family yet (I'm 32) but I can see how it must be a very absorbing thing and it will definitely influence your work. People get their inspiration from all sources and I think it's more healthy to be inspired by things you actually care about, rather than things you feel you're obliged to be. 

Being an artist is very difficult sometimes because of the silence, especially when you're working on intensive projects because they require so MUCH focus. So your brain kind of runs loopdeloops on a number of things (which isn't always fantastic). The internet i kind of use as my little window into talking to people, though to my clients it probably looks like im slacking off, but its honestly the only thing i do, lol. Need to keep my sanity *_* I go through moments of 'oh god i hate my life' when the routine starts to grate on me, which causes me to work slower. It's hard because i came from a busy office environment at SEGA with a huge group of social friends to sitting in this room hunched over a tablet every day. Its a lttle bit maddening but I look up to artists like you who seem to do it without problem or complaint and think I should just keep working hard. The one thing i want to do more than anything is share my Engelbaum story, but first i have to complete all my client projects, so that's my motivation right now. It seems incredibly far away, even if its just a few months. Kinda painful... when you're just wanting to wake up in the morning and say 'RIGHT! today's the day i start sharing my own stuff for real!'.

I used to live on DA... lol. But now i feel guilty i hardly log in. But I have to get back into the habit of building up my community again since these people are the lovey ones funding it. It's a balance lol.

tldr; theres nothing ever wrong with caring about your work and knowing the directions you want to take it, nomatter the obstacles.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I don't know any of the main superheros, ive hated super hero comics from day one as a kid: Men in leotards? no thanks, yet I liked WWF lol. I feel bad when it comes to commissions since I have no idea of the characters many a time.

Part of the reason I stopped watching stuff is so that I would not be caught up in the same ol same ol. I want 5C to be as weird as like, slow or fast as I like, sappy, smart ass-y, cars. All these things aren't combined in any story I know of.

I had to pay my dues in the industry for over a decade and a half. I worked on cool job, and not so cool jobs, but at the end of it all it could be summed up as one giant commercial. So 5C is not for the suits, its for you guys. I set goals, but all those client jobs sharpened me for this. I would never have been able to work on 5c years back. I actually needed to be frustrated with my work situation to drive me to this.

dA has had the most diligent and consistent fans. FB and Tumblr are narrow. My next batch of fans will be from here, so I will cater to them as much as I can.
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Meeowy Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
its always a delight reading your journals and this one in particular makes you all the more tangible :)
I find it odd that people are settling down later and later but as you stated each to their own.

the only thing our tv gets used for is xbox and that's more of a weekend thing. life is so packed and I dislike it terribly as I really wish to follow my passion in art.
I choose to be wise though and am grateful for my steady job to pay bills and support family.
the art world is harsh and with no degree I feel very few people can free lance it. I could never put my family at financial risk due to that

you are an inspiration and to be there for your family is incredible and rare. keep up the amazing work and for sharing your talent and story
thank you for reaching out to us here on DA :) it makes my day 
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I cannot believe I have supported my wife and kids off this income for years and years. Ive had to hustle and really manage whatever monies I received with the utmost care and stinginess.

Only professional artists will tell you that this is a very up and down job you have to plan for, and be prepared not for rain days, but rainy months.
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Meeowy Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you for taking the time to reply. it means alot and thank you for these words. they've given me hope in the direction I plan on taking my life and so grateful for my blessing and support of family :)
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Russell-LeCroy Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
Lol, and then there's that.
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Russell-LeCroy Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
haha :aww: I couldn't find the words so I thought those summed up the feels pretty well. 
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