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What is an Artist?

Tue Nov 27, 2007, 9:55 AM
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Here is an interview I did for Anguiad, and among the questions this one i found very hard to answer, maybe you guys would like to read my feeble attempt to explain art LOL!



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Anguiad asked the following:

I just want to ask you one last question: do you consider yourself an artist? Why? What should someone do to become one? Or is it something you do not "become" by yourself?

Omar answered thus:

Hmm, tough question. I might be...

My criteria for saying that I am an artist, is that I see art in everything. By that extension, any person can be artistic. However the application of that artistic view into mediums be it paint, pencil, and sand painting whatever, shows more the technique sometimes than the art.

Like children can be very artistic and creative though thier paintings and drawings are crap most of the time. It doesn't diminish their art though. Some people can draw incredible and paint as well, but their art sometimes is void of life and feeling. Even if they had tried hard to put it in, they failed to convey the life and feeling the child did in his painting.

Of course as you get older, feelings become more complex and harder to render, but that pure creative spirit, i feel, is best found in a child. That ability to find this world to be fascinating in all aspects, and that everything is worthy of being drawn and seen is the spring of ideas and creativity. An endless supply of subject matter.  

When you get older you get more concerned with technique and once in a while you get a really golden piece that has that same energy you found in your drawings when you were small. But not often, thats what makes it special when you nail it!

So I suppose, while you might be able to see art in things, it might not compel you to draw paint or whatever. I guess you might be able to say the artist is the one who strives to collect , capture and show his feelings through images, music, etc of what he saw that he was moved by. There might be people who can do this better than others, and you can judge them on their technique or feeling in the picture. By those measuring devices, which are mostly subjective, you can ascertain who is a good artist, I suppose.

However that doesn't mean there arent any concrete rules, and you are not perfect. Sometimes the leg is too long or the eyes are crooked, thats why you have an eraser, to fix it. But how far you want to apply those rules is up to you.

If you are talking about becoming a commercial artist however, that is a different story. There are a  lot of rules, and it is very tough to get in somewhere. Styles come and go, but it is the theories you learn in school, mostly , that people are looking for. Theories meaning, light , value, composition, etc. You may learn the Manga style on your own, or american style, or whatever style you name, but when it comes to the industry I am in, you had better back it up with some sort of quality and timeliness.

We aren't perfect, but we have to try to compete and become better. At the end of the day, if we don't compete, someone else will be eating while we go hungry, and it is hard to maintain your art when you are struggling to keep up. If you want to become a an artist for a living, be prepared for a rough ride and a lot of pressure at times. Sometimes you are forced to emmulate styles you aren't used to, and draw things you don't like, or never would have though to draw. You have to work when they say, unless you are rich, and many times art doesn't work that way. You get 'art block' etc, or just plain dont feel like it. Art isn't like a faucet you turn on or off when you please.

If you cant handle this, just leave art as a hobby, you will enjoy it much more. You are no less an artist if you don't get paid mega bucks or don't have 3 000 000 hits on DA.

Well, thats my opinion anyway, you can agree or disagree. I have 27 years of art experience behind me, and I can say, that I have drawn since I can remember. It has been an outlet for me, and still is. If my art is poor, it affects me personally, and vice versa. It is an intergral to my character and personality, you will get to know me by looking in my sketchbook. I never get bored of it, I never hate it, I get frustrated, but I would never want to stop. Maybe thats an artist? Tough question, I am not sure I answered it!

OMAR

Asalaamalaikum = Peace be upon you!

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Remus-Lupo Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2007  Student Filmographer
I think you hit the nail THROUGH the head...especially in that last part. I was feeling pretty down about my "art" for a long time and that is exactly why, cuz the kid and adult in me have been at war. Ur soo right and now I'm gonna try to be both so i can do what I love for a living and still have a living ^_^
sorry if i sound too sappy but u kinda put it into perspective for me.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2007  Professional General Artist
LOL no, that doesnt sound sappy!

Sometimes a random view point and can give you a clue to the battle you are fighting!
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Shan2k Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2007
I agree and felt everything you just said! Vicariously!
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carlospita Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2007  Professional General Artist
bravo!

I feel that when I was a kid...up to like 11 or 12...is when my imagination soared. My walls were constantly filled with drawings of characters that I would create. I would come up with characters, stories and vivid details at the drop of a dime. Then, when we get older and are faced with problems, responsabilities & reality...you lose some of that imagination. I wish that I could get it back sometimes.
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PhilWiesner Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2007  Student Digital Artist
Well, the path to getting better never was an easy path in the first place.

There's plenty of stress and things like that, but it does sound much more interesting than that of just limiting myself to my own favortism.

I've had crazy bosses before, a few hundred more couldn't hurt...
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Matchua Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2007   Digital Artist
i agree with you
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comic-burn Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2007  Professional
I think you answered that pretty well
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bardoc Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2007
if you look around, all you will c is art, life is art, its just that not all the ppl stop one sec to apreciate. ^^
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WillCaligan Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2007
I have to say that this is by far the best reponse I have ever read as to what an artist is and I sure do appreciate that you shared it with us. Would you mind if I posted it on my blog and my publishers forum?
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2007  Professional General Artist
Go right ahead, I would be honoured!
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WillCaligan Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2007
Thanks.
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RCatossi Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2007  Hobbyist Writer
you answered quite well!
and uh-hah for the well paid sleepless artists! :dance:
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rasdiggle Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2007
^^'
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ShuShiroi1549 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007
Ereb Tauramandil: A very well said response..... it is thus very inspiring.
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Zalude Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007
oh! You really answered on the spot?
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johnnyjester Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think ART is literally EVERYTHING and that is why it's so hard to define what an ARTIST is. I think at the end of the day the only thing anyone cares about is whether they enjoyed the art they saw or whether they expressed the art they felt well enough. ART IS LIFE and WE ARE ALL ARTISTS.
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Yoruihime-Raura Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007
I heard this some where before: 'An artist knows that he is one himself at the moment he cannot pass a day without drawing all of his thoughts into a piece of paper.'

Excuse my english ^^U
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SpiderGuile Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm not an artist, I just draw!!!
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whitetigerflame Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007
Wow. I said some of the same things when applying to the Art Institute of Atlanta. It's good to see we are quite on the same pages with some things; art is everywhere, yup! Though I only have about a good 13 - 16 years. Heh, they're definitely aren't any concrete, straight-up rules to art, plus it has so many applications. As far as I'm concerned, everything you said in this journal is quite true. As far as drawing, I've probably killed a small forest myself, ha!

Like children can be very artistic and creative though thier paintings and drawings are crap most of the time. It doesn't diminish their art though. Some people can draw incredible and paint as well, but their art sometimes is void of life and feeling. Even if they had tried hard to put it in, they failed to convey the life and feeling the child did in his painting.

Of course as you get older, feelings become more complex and harder to render, but that pure creative spirit, i feel, is best found in a child. That ability to find this world to be fascinating in all aspects, and that everything is worthy of being drawn and seen is the spring of ideas and creativity. An endless supply of subject matter.

When you get older you get more concerned with technique and once in a while you get a really golden piece that has that same energy you found in your drawings when you were small. But not often, thats what makes it special when you nail it!


These lines had me. So incredibly true. I'm actually going through this. Thanks for your journal and peace! :D
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R0K-MO Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
Dogan man thats real!! Man keep on teach'n us what you've experienced!

Just say'n Thanks man!!
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Faerie-s Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007  Professional Filmographer
Thank you for posting this journal ^^ it cleared up some things that I wanted to know :D

I must say though.... 27 YEARS?! WOWWWWWWW!!! such a long tiiiiiime! you must be so experianced!!!!!! I've only been drawing for a year.... 26 more to go!!!!
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ArtOfhKm Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
Yes,a child does see many fascinating things through their eyes.
I sometimes see that eventhough they dont have the technique to deliver their thought,I found that they sometimes have more creative energy than many adults today.

I'm turning 18 next year,and I'm trying hard to retain the child inside.

As artists,we sometimes had to be childrens sometimes.

Don't lose the artistic thirst...
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santivill Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
really well written, and i know what thats like to have to draw in certain styles and to draw things you dont like to and would never have thought of. its a pain in the ass at times and i really hate it while im working on it but afterwards i kind of like it because these projects more than my own personal work helps me to grow as an artist. they give you more inspiration at times and also sometimes they make you work on what you're generally too lazy to do and thats work outside your comfort zone.
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vforvengeance Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
An Artist:
-creates and set trends
-no strings attached
-no boundaries in his/hers imagination

An Illustrator:
-makes and follow trends
-bound to requirements
-result based

I guess that makes both you and me are illustrators:rose:
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional General Artist
You have a Doppleganger!

Look : [link]
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vforvengeance Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
It's just a mask, anyone can wears it.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional General Artist
I'm an Artist at heart, but Illustrator by proffession might be another way to put it!
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krissthebliss Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007   Digital Artist
well point on the art block.. back in those intimidation days I thought I totally sucked..Well, few graffiti art and a funny furry art and I'm back to the drawing stage.... majority that I can do is abstract and also I tried to do anime/cartoon related stuff. Right now I just pig out and watch some art for insperation.
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vforvengeance Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
An artist can be anything, musicians, actors, scuptors, engravers, chefs, bakers etc.
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StudioRisingStar Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional Filmographer
Hey Omar! Great words..
man 27 years....
just two mo' than me!
lol..

-SRS
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional General Artist
27years of drawing, ill be 31 next month!
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StudioRisingStar Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional Filmographer
Dang....
well yeah you 1-uped me there.
-SRS
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gawakita Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
All of us are born ARTISTS. We are all given that talent. We are all created in the image of the great Artist/Creator equally with the gift/talent of ART in its totallity, including all disciplines of it like singing,dancing,self defense, etc. What makes the difference is what discipline we are inclined to, exposed to, or trained for since day one up to now. Which also means different levels of mastery. For visual artists, all of us starts writing or drawing in scribbles or random strokes of paint. If we stop practicing our artistic talent then we are stuck with stick figures but If we draw on and on our artistry progresses until we break and break our limits. So let us not waste our God given talent, lets draw on like Omar. Everybody shout "Limit Break"!!!
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ANDREI08 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Student
very interesting. You could've just said:

"the artist is the one who strives to collect , capture and show his feelings through images, music, etc of what he saw that he was moved by."

and been done with it...lol But, anyway, thanks for the interview!
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danceyourpantsoff Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
whoa, that totally just blew me away. i totally agree with everything you said. i believe in school now-a-days creativity and imagination are lost. teachers are so focused on technique and proper proportions, that you loss the freedom to draw what you feel and see. not all people see things the same way, but we are influenced by certain things in life that hinder our interpretation of things. i think art in school is seriously slacking. thats why kids in elementary school are so lucky, but just wait til you get to highshool.
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yujikunschmidt Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
It seems tough to be an artist, specially when doing commercial art. Do you ever feel frustrated for not doing something that's on top of the artistic world today (something like concept art)? Or feel like you should make deeper or more intellectual work? As an illustrator, I mean.
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional General Artist
I am dying to do more intellectual work, I actual write in my spare time. I have had stories that i have written, but there is no outlet for them since i have to make money to pay the bills. But i still do do my own thing, but i feel the climateof the world wont allow for really different thought. i am sure i would get kicked off of DA if i really stated my opinions.

But when you are in the public eye, you have to step carefully. This is my concern mostly because i represent UDON as one of the founding members, so i dont want to get them in trouble for my beliefs, that wouldnt be fair to them.

I try my best on any piece that i have infront of me, even if it isnt the most impressive or high styling project. Like, every one is all about Naruto and Bleach and all that stuff, and it is fine, but i draw the things i honestly like. Pullum for example: hardly anyone has heard of her (EX Plus Alpha Street Fighter). i dont always just hop on trends just to get attention, but that Pixel ID thing really was cool though. I am guilty of being on that bandwagon, you can check my gallery for that one.
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yujikunschmidt Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I checked it out. Lots of your drawings, to tell the truth. I really like Udon's style, including yours. It is one of my goals for now, as an artist and as a pro, to be able to make this kind of illustration.
But it always worries me, as an art student, that making drawings of more complex content should be in an underground side of ours, perhaps to be shown only someday, when we're rich and renowned and no one will care that sometimes we make weird and uncomprehensible things. Should we give up what we really think as art and go for more easy paths (as if itself was so easy)? It is something to think about, I guess, specially here in deviantart. I think I'm very far from an answer, but one thing I know for sure: I'll never do Naruto nor Bleach...
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional General Artist
I guess it depends what your goals are and who you are talking to with your art. i wouldnt give up you own stuff, all artists have their own stuff while they might work on things they dont altogether like. That i think is common, it is rare when your work and likes are always the same, that is the success artists look for i think, atleast the one who make a carreer out of it..
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yujikunschmidt Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I guess we have to learn to like our work. And drawing's fun, no matter what we're drawing, anyway. I just sometimes wish more people would care about creating new paths or solutions for art, even for more commercial types. I'm planning to do so, even though I have no idea of how right now.
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krissthebliss Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2007   Digital Artist
try to make a literary work once in a while in DA... I realy like to know about your stories... its not new york best sellers type but i'll read a couple of pages of yours
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yujikunschmidt Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
Not that it ain't cool to do things just for fun. That's another part of art that I like...
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Jonpa Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
Well I think you made a good point. I'm terrible with interviews and the such.
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cottonwings Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
boohoooooo >_< SOunds sosoOOoOOoOoOooo risky...... i felt pressured rite now... TT_TT
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EverSeeker23 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
I find your words compelling and I guess you could call it "Food" for the mind. Something to think about. chew over. I agree with you. Everyone is different in their art taste, skills, style, and how much they like to do artistic activities. I also agree that it is a lot of work to be an artist as a career, and that if you cannot stand or commit to the sacrifices that come with it then it is best to keep your art as a hobby. I think you answered the question very well. Thank you for the "mind food". :)
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Omar-Dogan Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Professional General Artist
Bon Appetit!
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Pepper-sh Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
art in everything...
i agree with that
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Xeradon Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007
Yup... the hunger, discipline, and the will to sacrifice.

I fully agree with what you said in the interview.
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le-Rosemont Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007   Photographer
That was a brilliant answer! If someone asked me what an artist was, I'd be like 'someone who likes to draw, make music, dance, or act, and are good at it.' LOL! :love:
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Hunter-Wolf Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well said .... i enjoyed reading every word in the journal .... keep posting more journals like that plz .. there is nothing better than the insight of a fellow talented artist ^_^

Best of luck and have a nice day ;)

Asalaamalaikum
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